King@blackneon.net to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 1 month agoWhy do you personally believe in your religion?message-squaremessage-square143fedilinkarrow-up170arrow-down19
arrow-up161arrow-down1message-squareWhy do you personally believe in your religion?King@blackneon.net to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 1 month agomessage-square143fedilink
minus-squareAllero@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up1·1 month agoHow can you definitively prove it, though?
minus-squareblindbunny@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 month agoTake a look at it, it’ll prove to you it’s real.
minus-squareAllero@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up1·1 month agoCould be an illusion, or a lamp somewhere in the sky, or a simulation
minus-squareblindbunny@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 month agoYou didn’t take a look did you?
minus-squareAllero@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up1·1 month agoI did, and saw it. I also saw optical illusions. So?
minus-squareAllero@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up3·1 month agoUnless you are the Sun (in which case, cute~), it doesn’t seem to help
minus-squareXaphanos@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 month agoMy point is that if universal personal experience doesn’t prove something, you may be in the philosophical weeds.
minus-squareAllero@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up2·1 month agoIt doesn’t take philosophical weeds to consider the possibility of Sun being just a lamp in the sky, or people around you not being real
minus-squareXaphanos@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 month agoThe sun can be a large lamp. That’s still real.
minus-squareAllero@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up2·1 month agoIs it the Sun as we know it, though? And how can we be sure the lamp is actually there, and not simulation/imagination/trick of our eyes or brain?
minus-squareXaphanos@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 month agoBack to Solipsism. Anything can be argued in the ways you mention, eliminating all possible knowledge of both self and reality. A non productive dead end of philosophy.
How can you definitively prove it, though?
Take a look at it, it’ll prove to you it’s real.
Could be an illusion, or a lamp somewhere in the sky, or a simulation
You didn’t take a look did you?
I did, and saw it. I also saw optical illusions. So?
With Solipsism.
Unless you are the Sun (in which case, cute~), it doesn’t seem to help
My point is that if universal personal experience doesn’t prove something, you may be in the philosophical weeds.
It doesn’t take philosophical weeds to consider the possibility of Sun being just a lamp in the sky, or people around you not being real
The sun can be a large lamp. That’s still real.
Is it the Sun as we know it, though? And how can we be sure the lamp is actually there, and not simulation/imagination/trick of our eyes or brain?
Back to Solipsism. Anything can be argued in the ways you mention, eliminating all possible knowledge of both self and reality. A non productive dead end of philosophy.