• scholar@lemmy.world
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    59 minutes ago

    Except perfect knowledge of the world isn’t possible and there is sufficient complexity in the systems that lead to stock value changing to make it effectively random luck whether any particular investment will pay off (you’ve invested heavily into office real estate; welcome to the global pandemic and the rise of remote work).

    Selective breeding doesn’t care which genes are in play, it is outcome orientated. The result is the same, genes that don’t give the desired result are filtered out, genes leading to the desired result are promoted. The fact that you aren’t targeting specific genes doesn’t matter.

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      46 minutes ago

      you’ve invested heavily into office real estate; welcome to the global pandemic and the rise of remote work).

      Except youre also a big executive at your company and you tell all your peasants workers to go back to the office. And you collaborate with your rich friends to do the same and rake in all the cash.

      But that doesnt change anything. Any amount of knowledge gives your a advantage because it reduces risk. A roulette table has the same amount of risk everytime because the previous spins has zero effect of the future.

      Selective breeding doesn’t care which genes are in play, it is outcome orientated. The result is the same, genes that don’t give the desired result are filtered out, genes leading to the desired result are promoted.

      Right… but it took humans ~5000 years to breed corn. Perhaps millions if not billions of iterations. And it was all random chance that the offsprings resulted with desirablity traits. There is a reason farmers dont grow apple trees by seed anymore. Noone can guarantee the offspring will produce quality apples, and it takes a decade to produce apples.

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        35 minutes ago

        Now we’re quibbling over details, I never said it was a fast method of genetic engineering. It’s also not so much a matter of chance that the offspring has the desired traits, all that matters is that on average each generation is slightly better than the one before. That’s why it takes so long.

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          23 minutes ago

          Ok… think it about this way. Selective breeding is completely possible under natural circumstances, because we are purely manipulating natural evolutionary processes. The only reason domestication dont naturally occur is becuase generally the desirable traits are often lethal to wild organisms. We are the evolutionary pressure. If we die, so would the majority of our crops and livestock.

          Genetic engineering completely bypasses that process, and can even introduce genes from other species that would be so improable to breed, you might as say its impossible. You’ll never be able to breed glow in the dark corn because no parent you can breed with will have the genes, so you would be left with two natural choices… a random mutation, or a random horizontal gene transfer.