God so loved his creation that they would condemn to hellfire every child born into slavery who never has a chance to experience or express a single ounce of religious agency, much less participate in the requisite Christian salvation pageantry!
Tbf, of all the fucked up shit and inconsistency in the bible, this one isn’t really a thing. The tenth commandment uses a different word (covet) and has a different context than in the “jealous god” used earlier.
The tenth commandment is very structured around “wanting shit that isn’t yours.” Because God (canonically) is the rightful owner of all things, he cannot be covetous
The words are different in Hebrew, too. There’s pretty substantial debate on how exactly to translate the jealous god part, but that’s largely to do with how “abusive husband” the translator wants to make him sound.
While true, christians have been sidestepping that one, and others like it, for longer than our civilization has been a nascent idea. They just say the laws that apply to man don’t apply to god. It’s not even that difficult of a conclusion. See: God causes a crack in the earth to swallow up an entire family because they sinned? A-ok. Can a man kill someone and their family because they sinned? Nope, have to follow the laws about it, written in some book called leshitticus or something, idk.
God acting as an executioner for crimes he’s supposed to judge seems not as bad as God just straight up being like “yeah folks, I’m jealous and petty! But also perfect! But you better not be jealous and petty!”
Technically, the 10 commandments tell believers not to be envious. Not to envy your neighbor’s stuff.
Envy is “I wish I had what someone else has.”
Jealousy is “I’m worried someone else will take what should be mine.”
(Though in modern English “jealous” has largely absorbed the meaning for “envious,” I think the distinction is worth making because both concepts are individually useful.)
Since the first commandment is “you shall have no other gods before me,” God being “a jealous God” fits the 10 commandments well.
Not that this refutes your argument or anything but they’re not sidestepping it. It’s an example of “rules for thee not for me”. As far as they’re concerned capital G od is above men and as it’s his right to impose rules that apply only to those beneath him.
You can see it in their politics, Christians support the top down model and don’t believe those in positions of authority should be held accountable in the same way as the “common” man. UNLESS, they represent an opposing ideological stance.
If anything, the thing you should use as an example of God’s hypocrisy is that he sicks Satan (who is subservient to God) on humanity… as a flex?
Politically that’s be like the DNC being subservient to the Republican party and being used to piss off a bunch…wait
(This is a joke… kinda)
Oh I know, it’s not meant to be the one true argument to destroy anyone’s belief in god. But yeah the entire story of Job is just so fucked up. God literally puts Job through so much suffering just because of a pissing match with the devil.
God breaks his own rules in the ten commandments. God tells us not to be jealous of our neighbors while describing himself as a jealous god.
God so loved his creation that they would condemn to hellfire every child born into slavery who never has a chance to experience or express a single ounce of religious agency, much less participate in the requisite Christian salvation pageantry!
Her pain is God’s love!
Tbf, of all the fucked up shit and inconsistency in the bible, this one isn’t really a thing. The tenth commandment uses a different word (covet) and has a different context than in the “jealous god” used earlier.
The tenth commandment is very structured around “wanting shit that isn’t yours.” Because God (canonically) is the rightful owner of all things, he cannot be covetous
Since the Bible wasn’t originally written in English, could that be simply something lost in translation, tho?
The words are different in Hebrew, too. There’s pretty substantial debate on how exactly to translate the jealous god part, but that’s largely to do with how “abusive husband” the translator wants to make him sound.
While true, christians have been sidestepping that one, and others like it, for longer than our civilization has been a nascent idea. They just say the laws that apply to man don’t apply to god. It’s not even that difficult of a conclusion. See: God causes a crack in the earth to swallow up an entire family because they sinned? A-ok. Can a man kill someone and their family because they sinned? Nope, have to follow the laws about it, written in some book called leshitticus or something, idk.
That’s why “Christian morality is objective” and “God is all good” are mutually exclusive statements.
God acting as an executioner for crimes he’s supposed to judge seems not as bad as God just straight up being like “yeah folks, I’m jealous and petty! But also perfect! But you better not be jealous and petty!”
Technically, the 10 commandments tell believers not to be envious. Not to envy your neighbor’s stuff.
Envy is “I wish I had what someone else has.”
Jealousy is “I’m worried someone else will take what should be mine.”
(Though in modern English “jealous” has largely absorbed the meaning for “envious,” I think the distinction is worth making because both concepts are individually useful.)
Since the first commandment is “you shall have no other gods before me,” God being “a jealous God” fits the 10 commandments well.
Not that this refutes your argument or anything but they’re not sidestepping it. It’s an example of “rules for thee not for me”. As far as they’re concerned capital G od is above men and as it’s his right to impose rules that apply only to those beneath him.
You can see it in their politics, Christians support the top down model and don’t believe those in positions of authority should be held accountable in the same way as the “common” man. UNLESS, they represent an opposing ideological stance.
If anything, the thing you should use as an example of God’s hypocrisy is that he sicks Satan (who is subservient to God) on humanity… as a flex?
Politically that’s be like the DNC being subservient to the Republican party and being used to piss off a bunch…wait (This is a joke… kinda)
Oh I know, it’s not meant to be the one true argument to destroy anyone’s belief in god. But yeah the entire story of Job is just so fucked up. God literally puts Job through so much suffering just because of a pissing match with the devil.
The real lesson of all those old testimate stories is that God doesn’t care about your life, only your soul. Take from that what you will