European countries proposed a radical alternative Ukraine peace plan on Sunday that omits some of the pro-Russia points made in the original US-backed document and calls for Kyiv’s sovereignty to be respected.
The counter-proposal emerged as US, Ukrainian and international negotiators met in Switzerland. The 28-point US document leaked last week demands Ukraine hand over territory to Russia, limits the size of its army and agrees not to pursue the Kremlin for alleged war crimes.
Having been blindsided by Washington’s initiative, Ukraine’s European allies published their Kyiv-friendly plan on Sunday. It says negotiations over territory should take place after a ceasefire is agreed and should start from the line of contact – the existing frontline.
It says both parties would agree how any truce would be monitored “under US supervision”. Unlike the White House text, the European alternative does not call for Kyiv to withdraw from cities it controls in eastern Donbas. Nor does it rule out Ukraine’s membership of Nato, but points out there is no consensus over its membership.
And to be very CLEAR, about the deliberate trason by the Trumptraitor:
As discussions began in Geneva, Donald Trump said Ukraine had shown “zero gratitude” for US efforts to end the conflict
Speculation based on the use of language in the plan suggests it may have been written in Russian and later translated into English.
" A group of US senators said Rubio told them the text was not an American one. It was, they said, a Russian document deliberately leaked by Moscow which the US then passed on to Ukraine.
there is no may about it, several people who speak Russian state it is obvious.
Among them Anders Puk Nielsen, a military analyst from Denmark that speaks Russian has expressed it is obvious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3oGZYqxm4
Sorry I don’t remember the timestamp, but this guy is among the most trusted analysts on the Ukraine war.
Yaah I’ve seen his vids. Former military analyst something from Denmark or there abouts?
Yes I’m sure if Zelensky wanted to surrender half his country, he could ask Putin for terms himself.
And Zelensky would probably consider this for peace in a alternate universe, if it wasn’t for the 1000% untrustworthy Putin who always breaks treaties and promises.
Also RF “stole” (I don’t know what’s even the proper name) a minimum of 20K children, and and are momentarily brainwashing them. Some are being trained to fight against Ukraine.
That’s probably a pill many find ( too) hard to swallow.
Kidnapped would be the correct term, no?
Is usually is a term used when asking for a “ransom” they ask money or something, and usually people are taken for a (limited) period of time.
I’s more like human trafficking, but still it’s not the right term . In a way its a combination of kidnapping, human trafficking and sort of genocidal thing. Or all the above? #Ed quoting layout
Abducted?
That’s a much better word. Ty.