A survey published last week suggested 97% of respondents could not spot an AI-generated song. But there are some telltale signs - if you know where to look.

Here’s a quick guide …

  • No live performances or social media presence

  • ‘A mashup of rock hits in a blender’

A song with a formulaic feel - sweet but without much substance or emotional weight - can be a sign of AI, says the musician and technology speaker, as well as vocals that feel breathless.

  • ‘AI hasn’t felt heartbreak yet’

“AI hasn’t felt heartbreak yet… It knows patterns,” he explains. “What makes music human is not just sound but the stories behind it.”

  • Steps toward transparency

In January, the streaming platform Deezer launched an AI detection tool, followed this summer by a system which tags AI-generated music.

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    14 hours ago

    I think this might be a way AI and humans can actually work together. A lot of musicians are creating digitally anyway. They might have to rely on drum loops if they aren’t good at beats. Iterating with an AI to get the right beat would be better than a loop, and still be a human making it.

    However, I have reservations about the AI doing everything with little or no human involvement.

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      14 hours ago

      Iterating with an AI to get the right beat would be better than a loop

      That’s just like, your opinion

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        13 hours ago

        Right, pretty sure everyone but you knows it’s an opinion.

        I think (think means opinion) most people, besides you, would agree that having a beat that is unique and not just downloaded from a loop library will produce a song that is more original.

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          13 hours ago

          “In my imagination I speak for all people and we all think I’m right” chatGPT is literally rotting your brain bro

          “The main issue musicians are struggling with is originality; AI can help :)” get a grip. Notice how in order for you to insert “ai” into this process you have to construct a fantasy where a totally uncreative person lazily drags a low quality beat into their project without a further care in the world? The root of your little fantasy here is simple and inescapable: AI is only appealing to boring, uncreative, soulless people. I know it, and you know it, which is why out of all the limitless possibilities your first argument is that it would be superior to something you already consider shit.

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            12 hours ago

            “I refuse to have a polite conversation” - you. It’s exactly what you said, because it’s in quotes and I know how to use quotes. Hah.

            I disagree.

            If a person plays guitar-but not piano, and they feed their track into an AI and ask it to generate a backup piano track with specific instructions about how it should sound, they should be… denied that?

            What should they do if they want a track that involves an instrument they can’t play? Hire someone? With what money? lol.

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              12 hours ago

              Great job pretending not to know the concept of a summary! Also bonus points for conceding my points by ignoring them and moving on

              As for this little game you and all slop pushers like to play where you try to come up with problems that don’t exist so AI can solve them: I can’t help but to notice the main character of your second attempt here doesn’t have any friends they can make music with.

              The reason they have no musical friends is most likely because they keep getting ghosted after showing people their humiliating AI demos. It’s gonna be a recurring problem for them until someone is polite enough to tell them the truth to their face

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                11 hours ago

                Oh, I see… You’re gatekeeping music. You assume that if a person picks up an instrument that they must want to be in a band. They must have a lot of friends who also play instruments. And they cannot be considered a serious musician unless they play in a group. I think Enya might have something to say about that.

                I have the feeling that you feel the same way about all digitally created music, regardless of whether it involve artificial intelligence. You probably think programs like GarageBand have destroyed music. That a person with limited traditional musical skills could outshine you with what is basically a midi controller.

                Tell me more about your failed music career.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Your delusions now extend to me! What an honor. Sadly, unlike with your AI girlfriend, you don’t have the ability to just tell me what I believe lmfao. Your brain is cooked

                  As for the point you’re trying to make: you cannot be considered a serious artist if you smear AI on the walls and then demand the same respect given to actual artists, no.

                  Digital artists who use “what is basically a midi controller” are actual artists, yes. Wtf are you talking about btw, it’s like you’ve heard of midi controllers but don’t know enough about them to phrase your point properly. Is your entire concept of digital production based on a guitar center advertisement? It would explain why you incorrectly believe AI could possibly assist the creative process.

                  And you’re the one shitting on digital artists, just so you know. Google how “Umbrella” was made before you so casually throw drum loops under the bus. Drum loops (and….this might blow your mind…piano loops) are collaborations between human artists. Everyone agrees this is legit. The fact you think instrumentalists and producers are somehow enemies reveals how out of touch you are; it’s totally obvious to anyone who actually creates music