• balderdash@lemmy.zip
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      The problem isn’t “human nature”. The problem is that, under capitalism, profit must always be increased. Marx talked about the inherent contradiction here, viz, we use the finite materials of nature in a quest for infinite profit. Put simply, if the table company wants to make more money, they’re going to have to chop more trees.

      Just as the rise of merchants was an untenable contradiction in the logic of feudalism, the many contradictions within capitalism indicate that it cannot last. It will likely collapse into a technologically advanced socialism or a technologically oppressive fascism.

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      12 hours ago

      Ironically, life generally has those cancer cell characteristics.

      Is there any population of anything that will self govern it’s resource consumption? Or is all life limited by resources and / or predation?

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        The difference is surviving species reach equilibrium typically. Humans won’t do that in a capitalist system.

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          We are the equivalent of an invasive species with no natural predators. Sure, some animals would happily eat us like polar bears and orcas, but we don’t live in the Arctic and we don’t swim in Orca hunting grounds.

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          Most organic life lived in a decent amount of equilibrium for millions of years before us … dinosaurs lasted about 60 million years before they got wiped out be an asteroid. They probably could have lasted millions of more years if they didn’t get affected by anything.

          Our closest ancestors appeared about two million years ago but they weren’t anything like us today. Our most modern ancestors that are exactly like us are only about 50,000 years ago. So, we’re still very, very new to the game of life.

          We shouldn’t be so surprised at our ‘success’ yet. We’re a pretty young species and we may yet figure out a way to wipe ourselves out sooner rather than later and give the next sentient species a chance to restart a new civilization without us.

          We are just another iteration … whether or not we last is anyone’s guess. But at the moment, the odds don’t look so good.