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    3 days ago

    Umm. Gonna say no. Nope. Freedom of the press isn’t negotiable regardless of anything else. Letting the fascist get his way isn’t going to be good, no matter what.

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      3 days ago

      The press gave their freedom to him in hopes he’d give them their freedom. Sound stupid?

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        3 days ago

        Not defending them, arguing that your wishing that Trump gets his way isn’t the correct response to it. Fuck corporations for thinking that complying in advance can save them and absolutely fuck Trump for trying to silence the press. Jesus

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          We’re agreeing, you and I.

          The reason I think Dotard needs to win this one aggressively is so it teaches the remaining press a harsh lesson.

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            See, this is the disconnect. You agree with me, and then say he needs to just win this once. No. He absolutely can’t win in this, ever. If he should ever try it needs to end in horrible failure, horribly. Any amount of him winning in this will spell the end of press freedom for forever. It won’t be some wake-up call, it’ll be a death knell for all of this.

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              It’s not about winning. It’s the lesson. The media obviously needs it. Colbert, Kimmel and scores of smaller reporters being silenced because they “pre-complied” tells us they won’t learn unless it’s painful.

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                Yeah, the lesson being that freedom of speech means nothing in this country and you need to bend over and do whatever glorious leader says or you’ll lose your market share.

                Brother, capitalists don’t grow backbones when you threaten their profits (and you’re bigger than they are). They capitulate harder.

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                  Man, I must be the only one red-hot angry at these networks for capitulating and paying bribes to this fucking criminal president.

                  Consequences are a necessity.

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                    It’s like you don’t even hear yourself. You act like your advocating for consequences, but these aren’t consequences. This is the next step to a totalitarian dictatorship.

                    Consequences is ABC being sued by people for a sizable portion of their profits for capitulation. Consequences are boycotts, protests, continuous bad press, a break up of their monopoly. Things that make it clear that we the people aren’t happy with people playing ball with a wannabe dictator.

                    Consequences aren’t losing your license because glorious leader doesn’t like what you’re saying. All that does is tell the other news orgs to shut the fuck up about Trump or also lose your licenses. It further pushes companies towards becoming tools of the fascist regime. A thing that has happened many other times in other countries throughout history. In-fucking-cluding here (see McCarthyism).

                    You’re being an idiot wanting to see pain regardless of from where, without thinking through what the fuck will happen because of it.