• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Unfortunately, there are few leftists that push the same narrative, too. And all because Biden (or Obama, or Hillary) are not the pretty pony they think they were promised or something.

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      11 months ago

      Point of fact: Clinton’s centrists were so upset that they didn’t get their very first choice in 2008 that they formed a PAC to try to get McCain/Palin elected. And they’ve been screaming “no matter who” ever since.

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        11 months ago

        I have no special affinity for either of the Clintons. However, it cannot be denied that there is a certain type of leftist (often very loud, and probably the minority, thankfully) that behave like petulant children when they don’t get their pretty pony, whoever that is.

        Don’t get me wrong - I’d like that pretty pony, too. I just realize that even if people don’t love Hillary, she’d still be better than OJ (Orange Jesus) and so once the primaries are over, voting for donnie to really stick it to the man, or sit out, or vote for some completely unserious party like the Green Party is not really teaching anyone the lesson(s) that the people stamping their feet think they are.

        OJ represents a very existential threat. Just because he flubbed the RW agenda the first time around doesn’t mean he won’t succeed in destroying America if given another chance.

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          11 months ago

          Don’t get me wrong - I’d like that pretty pony, too.

          The only thing you want is unquestioning worship of the party from everyone to your left.

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            11 months ago

            LOL, I only vote for them because I have to. What is the realistic alternative? Unless we have something like ranked choice, voting for Green or staying home or writing something in is just a vote for Republicans.

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              11 months ago

              And you only choose to constantly belittle anyone who isn’t 100 percent ecstatic with everything the party does because you want to.

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                11 months ago

                So, I’m constantly belittling myself? I am not 100% ecstatic with the Democratic Party and never have been. Thing is, I recognize what an existential threat the Republican Party has become. In the general, the choice is you either support the Democratic Party (warts and all) or you are essentially supporting this threat to the country.

                I wish it were otherwise, but wishing won’t make that so.

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                  11 months ago

                  I wish it were otherwise, but wishing won’t make that so.

                  You prefer ridicule to understanding, even when understanding stands a a chance of getting back lost votes. Ridicule does nothing to help you.

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                    11 months ago

                    I wasn’t aware I was running someone’s campaign. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to question what kind of motives people have if they don’t get behind the Democratic Party in the face of a very radicalized Republican Party that will apparently cast aside all democracy in their will to power. And who have members in their base that constantly talk about civil war and murdering other citizens.

                    Primaries? Sure, of course. During the general, though? There are only going to be two actual choices.