Editing to delete all of this. I am getting real threats again, and I am not willing to have a complete mental collapse over fucking Lemmy for a 2nd time. Fuck this place. And especially fuck all of the transpose assholes bent on making my life hell. I am deleting my accounts permanently, but will leave the content up. Don’t worry, you won’t need to kill or doxx me, I intend to take care of the former myself.

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    Okay. Looking through the comments, it doesn’t appear that you actually have anything here other than it pisses you off. But is it a problem? You’re phrasing this like cm0002 is evading bans and he isn’t. If he’s making new accounts and that annoys you then that sucks but… why do the admins need to get involved with this? You said you want to have him permabanned from an instance? Why?

    You can check who voted for a post by the way. Cm0002 doesn’t vote for himself. I have checked in the past when I first started noticing his username a lot myself. Hell, I thought he was irritating as hell for a while myself too. I guess I’m biased in the sense that I know the dude and would call him a friend but even then, I’m not seeing anything demonstrating that action needs to actually be taken by anyone.

    I get being annoyed with people. But saying that this is bad faith and worthy of having the entire username banned from the entire fucking instance seems like a massive overreach. One so far that I would just outright avoid ever posting to that instance ever again because that admin would be tripping balls and power.

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      I have logged out and read all of the replies. I do not believe them to believe them to be truthful or in good faith based on timing alone. cm0002 made an account on an instance that was less than a day old. They even made a post about it. How in the world is that possible without automation? And to your other replies, yes, I am deliberately rocking the boat because I believe that people need to be aware that this kind of thing is possible. Also, one of the predominant complaints on Lemmy is multiple posts to many communities. I don’t think that there is a bigger offender. Many people see things multiple times and can’t stop it because of the account spam.

      I’ve calmed down a lot (re; your comment about me not being around - I needed to actually step back and get some perspective). While this was posted as a rant, I do stand by the initial points (though framing it as ban evasion was admittedly me just fuming). I should have punched a wall, or something instead - I don’t know. I’m not entirely intelligent nor emotionally stable by any means. I think something about hitting the block button one too many times made me snap.

      I really should just leave all kinds of social interactions because my brain can break like this, I guess. You’ve been fantastic to me and gave me a real shot at making good posts. My insane bipolar brain is telling me to run right now.

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        It’s not automation, it’s just autism. You can see when new instances come online and he likes helping out small ones so he keeps an eye out.

        I get rocking the boat. That’s fine. I’m not saying don’t. I’m just perturbed by accusations made with zero evidence as if it’s just truth. I don’t recommend punching a wall (or running, shit happens), and ranting is what the community is there for, but question things more so than accuse.

        And while he is a friend, I’ve questioned before why he’s using so many alts and told him to chill the hell out. I also think he should on that front because I like him on lemmy otherwise. So I’m not just sitting on the sidelines completely defending him. Just… yea.

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          You’ve talked me down on several occasions, and this should be added to them, I think. @[email protected] I’d like you to know that this wasn’t personal - I just got extremely frustrated, and will delete my untoward comments if you deem that I should.

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        made an account on an instance that was less than a day old

        Honestly, I had no idea that they were only open for a day, I just peruse Lemmyverse.net and pick instances that seem interesting or have funny/cool sounding names 😂

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          I get it, but from the end user standpoint (and the admins of that insance), it is really hard to not stand back and ask "wtf?:

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        Literally the entire purpose of this community.

        It’s been fun to see a lot of the major Lemmy posters show up in this thread. It’s been really eye-opening.

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          For someone who keeps running around this thread and saying that it’s exactly appropriate for this community, you clearly did read the second rule. It’s almost like lying about someone flinging false accusations and making shit up might violate the rule saying respect other users. Even then, my issue isn’t the rant. My issue is that this is someone who I respect and have seen on Lemmy a lot, who I’ve talked to a lot, who is making shit up, throwing a tantrum and inventing shit about someone else. I don’t care about the actions of this post. I care of the actions of this post when @[email protected] is better than this. This is just fucking disappointing.

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              They’re extremely abusive towards each other. Instead of just blocking users they set up harassment and thought policing communities to screenshot and drama post about each other in a way that makes any normal person delete their account and go back to reddit.

              This guy cm0002 for example, what they are doing is totally unhinged, it is really off putting and reeks of desperation. I’m not a tankie, I have differing opinions. Do I need to thought police tankies? No. I get along with everyone because we’re just shit posting online. Then I go and hang out with my family and do things like hiking. But these people literally freak out and spend hundreds of waking hours tracking people, screen shotting them, gathering evidence and in cm0002s case emulates a bot manually reposting. It is fucking crazy. Dude, tankies aren’t even a real thing most people who aren’t terminally online ever heard of.

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        Rule 2. I guess you missed that part in your quest to take a screenshot. Making shit up about a user, admitting you’re making shit up about a user and doubling down with false accusations really seems like it’d violate that.

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      I really can’t think of a good reason to have this many active and posting accounts other than trying to get around something. I was extremely annoyed when I wrote this post, and honestly still am, hence why I posted this here. A filter per end user would be a better solution, like what PieFed has.

      I could have worded everything better. This should be a highlight of what could be done by one user.

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        It’s honestly driving me crazy that people are complaining about the wording.

        You posted it here consciously, it’s a “rant” community.

        This is the right place for something like this! The way you worded it wasn’t really problematic. It may have been if it was in a different community, but people are expecting lot from a rant.

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          They accused another user of ban evasion, realized they were pissed, said they had zero evidence to support the accusation and repeatedly doubled down. The problem is not the wording. It’s the actively hostile intent towards another user and using the rant community to attack someone. It’s disgusting and I expect better of Jawa after everything else they’ve done on Lemmy. This some extremely shitty behavior.

          Stop trying to move the goal posts to make what is blatantly an attack post seem okay.

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            Speaking of being actively hostile towards another user and lying for that purpose, have you seen the list of supposed quotes from the Lemmy devs that cm0002 keeps posting repeatedly (a few times just on this thread)? From the couple I checked, those do not at all appear to be direct quotes, even though he makes it appear as though they are. That seems to me to be against many instances’ rules?

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              Whataboutism. One accusation with some merit (whether or not it even has any, I have no idea because I haven’t looked into it) does not mean that another one suddenly gets any. I am also not having a discussion about that. I am having a discussion about the fact that false accusations were slung with zero evidence. Make your own post if you feel that strongly about it and actually have evidence.

              Edit: Yeah, I looked at the quotes. They’re clearly facetious and provide the actual link to the direct quote. Your complaint is worthless. If you have nothing valuable to add then it’s perfectly legitimate to say nothing. Highly recommend it sometime.

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        I really can’t think of a good reason to have this many active and posting accounts other than trying to get around something.

        I can’t think of a lot of things too. Doesn’t mean those reasons don’t exist. He’s also actively given reasons in this thread. I’d suggest logging out and checking it or something else. Moreover, unless you have something to point to then the accusation is kind of reductive and harmful. You’re claiming he’s evading bans but have provided exactly zero evidence of this. 5 hours later, you’ve still not updated the post to remove the ban evasion claim or provide any evidence of it. I’ma be real… I find your behavior to be WAY more problematic than his. What’s he doing? Making multiple accounts and annoying you. What are you doing? Making a large thread firing accusations at someone with exactly zero evidence.

        I was extremely annoyed when I wrote this post, and honestly still am, hence why I posted this here.

        That doesn’t justify firing false accusations at someone. Questioning if someone does it is fine. You didn’t do that though. You outright said this was ban evasion tactics and that makes me feel really gross. I get your frustrations and I’m not minizing them but you’ve framed your frustrations and suspicions as fact, providing nothing to back yourself up other than the thing that annoys you and keep firing that same accusation by being aware of the wording error and not fixing it.

        This whole thread is… kind of gross. I’m not going to lie. I’m not a big fan of not liking a thing and then presenting my hunch as outright fact. I go out of my way to look for things that might point towards it and will at the very least add that. Add supporting evidence for the argument. This is just a personal complaint that’s been framed as an attack on another user and I’m not exactly a fan.

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          To me it seems mostly as a method to obscure post history. It’s the other side of the coin of users who delete everything 24-48 hours afterwards. Incredibly annoying and only leads me to feel suspicious.

          After all, you’ll note how quick the user is to dive into post histories and theorycraft on who is whose alt accounts. The notion that there’s something to be found in there is some kind of projection for sure.

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            Your feelings are irrelevant unless you have evidence. Your hunch is irrelevant unless you have proof. I am not a 14 year old interested in gossip.

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              It was going on in the main/top thread of this topic when I opened it. Linking this thread would seem unnecessary? First reply to hamid by cm002 in this post is calling them an alt of another user?

              *edit Did you believe I was referring to you? I was referring to the cm002 user, not you.

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                Did you believe I was referring to you? I was referring to the cm002 user, not you.

                Like I said. Your feelings are irrelevant unless you have proof. Saying something feels a certain way is useless and doesn’t add anything to the conversation. It’s just nonsense accusations based off of your feelings.

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      It very clearly is ban evasion. At the same time the Lemmyverse does fundamentally not have the ability to stop this.

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        It very clearly is ban evasion.

        Prove it. “Very Clearly” is worth nothing. A hunch is worth nothing. If you don’t have something to actively point towards for that accusation, then it’s just a false accusation. Considering that he hasn’t been posting to places he’s been banned from, and the fact that it’s the same username so it is flat out idiotic to use the exact same username repeatedly if he’s trying to do that, your accusation doesn’t seem to have anything to stand on.

        At the same time the Lemmyverse does fundamentally not have the ability to stop this.

        Which, as we’ve established, is not actually problematic. Just annoying. Otherwise you’d all be linking to examples of him doing the things you’re claiming.

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          I am pretty sure this user in question is the same that has made previous demands the Lemmy devs ‘sell’ the code to an independent third party like some kind of IMF loan situation. There’s a level of dedication against the platform itself that exists.

          I had always assumed they’d just gone over to piefed and put their crusade to rest.

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            So you still don’t have any evidence and everything that you’re saying is completely and utterly worthless?

            Thank you for your input.

            Go away.

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              There was a petition posted awhile back about wanting the Lemmy devs to give away control over the code because of their politics. I will see if I can find it but I think it was over a year ago at this point. I am almost positive it was cm002, but I’ll see if I can find that thread. No harm in seeing if my recollection is accurate.

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                I will see if I can find it

                I am almost positive

                I’ll see if I can find that thread

                No harm in seeing if my recollection is accurate

                Then go ahead and do that. But as it currently stands, you are just firing accusations with nothing other than “I think” and “I feel”. You might as well be a republican.

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                  Here’s one comment that I spent my morning digging up instead of enjoying my coffee. Scrolling MWoG isn’t exactly enjoyable.

                  https://lemmy.world/post/29173321/16870997

                  I couldn’t find the specific thread I was thinking of that was actively calling for removal. But that’s a comment referencing that demand as a discussed option.

                  Digging through post histories and searching lemmy is not something I am ever inclined to do, so I was appealing to a shared experience/memory since the whole push for donations brought up a lot of those discussons everywhere they were.

                  Also Meanwhileongrad is on my local feed so I see all the threads and discussions before curation, so I rarely if ever comment propotionally.

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                    I couldn’t find the specific thread I was thinking of that was actively calling for removal

                    Then your initial claim has no merit.

                    I also don’t fucking care. This post is not about that behavior of cm0002. The whataboutism of “Ohhhhh but this other thingggggggg” does not have a single ounce of bearing over whether or not his making of multiple accounts is ban evasion, which is literally the entire point I’ve been making. If you feel so strongly about it, then make your own post. But I seriously doubt anyone is going to give a shit with a user having a personal opinion. I certainly don’t.

                    Digging through post histories and searching lemmy is not something I am ever inclined to do, so I was appealing to a shared experience/memory since the whole push for donations brought up a lot of those discussons everywhere they were.

                    No. You were making flat accusations and basing it off of stuff that you cannot find nor accurately recall. Republican behavior.

                    So leave me alone or make your own post. Either way, you’re not getting any more engagement from me over this whiny garbage nonsense of “But I don’t like him because of shit that I think I can remember accurately but cannot prove nor find”