Despite getting better and better with each season, Prime Video ultimately cancelled The Wheel of Time — and we’re still angry over it.

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    The books good but not great. Cool ideas but the writing could be better. My friend read a lot more of them than I did and after the original author died another guy picked up where he left off and those ones are apparently better.

    You should just read the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind though. Disney tried to make a TV series about it and they fucked it up real bad.

    Edit: wow people are really offended by my opinions of some fantasy novels. Sorry, everyone.

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      5 hours ago

      Sword of Truth started okay, but I felt it quickly became a tract for Goodkind’s libertarianism, fascism, racism, and misogyny.

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        5 hours ago

        Huh, I did not pick up on that. Sword of Truth is better-written than the Wheel of Time imo.

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          Not only is it not better written, it’s notorious for literally stealing things from The Wheel of Time straight up. It’s some of the most blatant plagiarism I’ve ever seen in my life.

          Also I refuse to believe you didn’t pick up on the libertarianism. He literally dedicated one of the books to Ayn Rand. The Sword of Truth is the worst book series I’ve ever read my life.

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            it’s notorious for literally stealing things from The Wheel of Time straight up.

            I don’t disagree. I read SoT first and am aware it was written after WoT. That sucks but I had a hard time getting through WoT due to the writing style.

            I refuse to believe you didn’t pick up on the libertarianism. He literally dedicated one of the books to Ayn Rand.

            I listened to the audiobooks, mostly while driving. They don’t read who it was dedicated to, IIRC. I’ll have to check that out. I did pick up on some general philosophy that I disagree with on more than a few of the books, but it’s fantasy, it didn’t really bother me.

            I also listened to WoT audiobooks, and the narrator makes a huge difference. In SoT they had this narrator, Sam Tsoutsouvas, who is just incredible.

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              Well I’m with you on the Wheel of Time audiobook narrators. I’ve never liked them at all.

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          Yeah the whole old empire thing was basically a giant socialism strawman (including equal distribution of sex from pretty women, lol) that he totally destroys by showing everyone by example how to pick yourself up by your bootstraps. And his author blurb says he a member of the Ayn Rand society or something like that. That shit didn’t start creeping in in a big way until the later books though (correction: it started early, I didn’t know he wrote 26 of the things). It was enough to put me off his follow-up series.

          Edit: Shit, apparently he wrote 15 more after I stopped with book eleven, which really felt like a complete end to me, I was surprised way back then that there were any more. I don’t know how he managed to milk it that much.

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            He definitely milked it too much. In the later books he brought back some of the things from some of the early books which was frustrating.

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          4 hours ago

          Undoubtedly, at least until Brandon Sanderson took over. I enjoyed the last few books so much more due to the significantly better writing quality, but felt bad because Sanderson only took over because Robert Jordan died.

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      It’s also worth noting that the guy who picked it up was chosen by the previous guys editor (and wife), and was a consultant for at least the first season of the show… and while he offered some pointers, he ultimately thought the showrunners went in a direction he didn’t think was the best.

      He’s also Brandon Sanderson, who’s known now for his connected universe works spearheaded by Mistborn and The Stormlight Archives.

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      I thought the series (of books) was great. The only complaint I had at the time was I thought 2-3 books around the start of the second half should have been condensed into one. But if I was reading it now with them all out it might not bother me. At the time I would be pretty annoyed that the main plot didn’t move much and now I had to wait for the next one.