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    As an artist and philosopher, I find this comment extremely ironic as you have identified some of the artwork which I find the most valuable and thought-provoking.

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      you and your opinion suck, and it’s because of people like you defending those shitheads that the roosters have come home to roost for artists.

      Go look at some blank paintings

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        Thinking deeply about these artworks has literally helped me understand the world better so what do I do with that knowledge?Just throw it away?

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            The problem is part of my life is being an artist which means incorporating the things I’ve learned that I want people to understand into my artistic work.

            Have you ever considered that artist don’t actually owe you something?

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              do you know what a thought exercise is? You’re saying that you derived ideas from the works you cited, which is the entire point of a thought exercise. A thought exercise or an experiment in technique is different to a finished work; these fucking people belong in textbooks for artists, not museums, because they are not expressing anything. If you’re getting some emotions expressed at you from these works, you most likely get them from blank walls and stains in wood as well; you are the artist in that situation, not them.

              Have you ever considered that artist don’t actually owe you something?

              They owe me loads; I paid taxes which housed the works that pushed out the curative attention that society has a limited amount of, over works that would have been much more deserving and poisoned YOUR OWN FIELD OF ENDEAVOUR.

              Those fucking people literally ruined the world of paintings, and you’re there continuing to encourage them.

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                so you think that the purpose of visual arts is literally nothing more than to express emotions and aesthetic beauty? Is that seriously the only kind of “expression” that you can imagine?

                Something to think about: here is an artist very clearly explaining to you that they got something out of these works that you obviously missed or did not perceive and you’re not even a little bit curious as to what it might be, already deciding that there is no way there is anything of value there, and I think that’s just very unfortunate

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                  so you think that the purpose of visual arts is literally nothing more than to express emotions and aesthetic beauty?

                  I actually indicated that there is another aspect to it, but since you’re not pointing out your ideas completely, I’ll let you go back to my post and see if you can get it through the non-subtly expressed text I wrote.

                  here is an artist very clearly explaining to you that they got something out of these works that you obviously missed or did not perceive and you’re not even a little bit curious as to what it might be, already deciding that there is no way there is anything of value there, and I think that’s just very unfortunate

                  Yeah, I’d care if the works were distinct enough to express different emotions instead of “I dumped the paint on the canvas randomly, without fine motor control, good thing I have buds in the CIA” which, BTW is the point of this thread.

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                    You literally said to me that as far as you can perceive, the works you cited are “not expressing anything” and then compared it to the emotional experience of staring at a blank wall. I really don’t know how I’m supposed to read this other than that you think these works of art are pointless because they don’t inspire emotions within you and that you literally have not wrapped your head around the things that they are actually expressing