cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38674008

The supreme court has issued an emergency order temporarily blocking full Snap food aid payments.

The high court’s order came after the Trump administration asked a federal appeals court on Friday to block a judge’s order that it distribute November’s full monthly food stamp benefits amid a US federal government shutdown.

After that request to block was denied, the Trump administration turned to the supreme court in a further attempt to block the order to fully fund Snap food aid payments.

The application to stay reads: “If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds. Worse, these harms will only compound if the decision below stands.

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      Also they say they’re christians. I think we should call them post-christian trump death cultists.

      Here’s an excerpt from Matthew 25 to bust out whenever you talk to one of these fucks:

      “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

      Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

      For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

      I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

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    It’s shocking because of how easy it was for them to do the decent thing. Literally all they had to do was nothing, but they paid for the lawyers and did the work, and made a conscious effort to fuck over the most vulnerable people in the country.

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    Shouldn’t this headline be “supreme court allows trump to dodge responsibilities for another week”? The court order was more focused on enabling godking trump than on whatever silly poor people shit they were supposed to be deciding.

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      It should be:

      “Supreme Court considers SNAP benefits harmful and denies access to food while ICE receives full funding during the shutdown”

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    They make it seem like families being fed is somehow the emergency that needs to be prevented.

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    No food for you!

    Ok just some food but not all

    Kidding! No food for you! Bwa haha!

    That’s what this is like and it’s horrifying. These are people’s lives they’re fucking with. People who live and work and pay taxes in this fucking country. And they re STARVING them. What the everloving fuck!!

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    How the fuck did they have the gall to write this

    If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm

    I’m very much not a lawyer, I’m not even from the US, but even I know that irreparable harm is harm which may not be cured by monetary compensation. THIS IS LITERALLY JUST MONEY GIVEN TO THE STATES. IF THE DECISION IS LATER OVERTURNED THE STATES CAN JUST GIVE THE MONEY BACK FROM THEIR BUDGETS. This is the dumbest fucking shit I’ve read for a while.

    You know what is quintessential irreparable harm? Medical complications or death from starvation. Which I sincerely wish upon the fucking monsters who signed this decision, which is illegal even by the already crooked pro-capitalist amerikkkan laws.

    Y’all will need to relieve those injustices of their duties by force at some point. It doesn’t seem like there’s any other way.

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      It’s even dumber than that. This was an order to use emergency funds set aside specifically for SNAP. Going before the Supreme Court and saying they don’t have the funding is admitting that they stole that shit.

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        Its slightly more complicated. One judge ruled they have to use the emergency funds, another ruling said they have to provide full funding. Emergency funding is like ~5B, full snap payments for a month is like ~9B. So they would have to pull funding elsewhere, like from ICE. Which they totally should be forced to do, but that’s just my opinion.

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    So, let me get this straight -

    Either the Dems surrender health care for Americans,

    or…

    MAGA is going to starve us to death?

    Imagine when American citizens, even children, start dying of STARVATION in America because the wealthiest government in the world, led by dozens of Psychopathic Oligarchs, DELIBERATELY engineered it so they could pay less taxes?

    Yeah, that’s the government we want.

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        Nope. Look through the comments on any post mentioning Newsom. Plenty of people here fully willing to repeat the mistakes of the past. Add to that come clowns here are even saying that wouldn’t vote for AOC because she’s to middle of the road for them.

        You can’t make this shit up.

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        It could, if anybody on the Dem side had any idea how to market ideas to the people. If I were the DNC, I would put massive billboards all over every city in America that say:

        MAGA wants you to SURRENDER YOUR HEALTH CARE, OR

        The RICHEST will STARVE the POOREST,

        To DEATH.

        Don’t be a hostage. Resist.

        But they won’t because it wouldn’t be polite to the PedoCons. And we all know how polite they are.

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    If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds.

    They are emergency funds. This is what they’re there for!

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      I think they want people rioting in desperation so they can declare martial law.

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        That is a fact. They want an excuse to start deploying the military and I hope to God there’s enough officers in the military that has enough balls to support the Constitution and not the fucking dictator. They are trying to push a civil war

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          There is no one who could fight the feds in a civil war right now. They want domestic violence, riots, that they can crack down on to take more power and train people to accept domestic occupation.

          Wars require combatants. The troubles in Northern Ireland was not a civil war, and the IRA was far more organized than anything that exists now here in the states.

          They want a fight because they think they can win.

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            When you say they do you mean the military? The military has no arrest authority over civilians. The posse comitatus act specifically says that. When I was in the military we spent two days going over the posse comitatus act and what the military is allowed to do. That was part of my officer training. There is no legal recourse for the military to do anything. If civilian leaders give illegal orders the only thing the military can do is look at the civilian leader and say no that’s against the Constitution and we cannot do that. It was set up specifically like that to keep the military from trying to take over. Because you know a general could say hey civilian guy giving illegal orders we can arrest you or the general could say hey civilian in any situation we can arrest you and hold you indefinitely. The purging of the brass in the military and especially the upper echelon officers is really what is disturbing about this. The fact that there are military officers that are willing to go against the Constitution is even more deeply disturbing. I’m not really going to blame some 19-year-old recruit that just come out of basic because they don’t know any better but they’re NCOs and officer corps sure as fuck does. And that’s where the real problem lies. Just like Bannon recently that the Republicans better take over the institutions or we’re all going to jail in 2028 so he knows they know that all this shit is illegal but here we are

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        Indeed. The question will be how to keep the military, commandeered to kill their own countrymen, from following this illegal command.

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          Take the Texas national guard, tell them Portland has been overrun by Antifa, and send them in. That’s the trick. If you send the locals, they won’t do it. You have to get people who will listen to you and aren’t local, that way they don’t think they’re fighting their neighbors.

          For example, at Tiananmen Square, they called up hundreds of thousands of troops from outside Beijing, not just for pure numbers, but because they would be less sympathetic to the students.

          They already know this. That’s why Stephen Miller is doing this exact thing.

          When the local national guard units are deployed for riot control, usually they do a relatively good job. In the 1992 LA riots, there were a couple thousand CA guardsmen (I can’t find a solid number) plus a couple thousand more other law enforcement, over 12,000 arrests, and 63 dead, of whom 9 were shot by police and only one by the national guard.

          (Kent State is the notable exception.)

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      I’ve been saying this for weeks, they want people to riot… they are trying to manufacture a reason to enact martial law…

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      Starvation is an economically efficient way to reduce the population, just like Israel or Russia have done, two of Trump’s best friends. Only the poor ones will die, so it works great.

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      It really sucks for the people that didn’t vote for this, but for everyone who did or was too lazy to get out and vote… I will be taking great schadenfreude in listening to them complain.

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    How many reasons do the Dems need before they start seriously talking about adding at least 4.seats to the Supreme Court? That’s the kind of bold promise that many people will vote for, especially if they are in interracial or gay marriages, because those won’t survive another MAGA administration.

    And when we take our country back, we also need to impeach Clarence Thomas, and imprison both him and his treasonous bulldog wife.

    It’s time to re-balance the Supreme Court.

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      Getting the government back via “legal” means is over.

      Time to start thinking outside the box.

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        No, it isn’t, not yet. We still have the 2026 Midterms, and the 2028 Presidential Election. How MAGA handles those elections will tell the tale. If they manage to game the system again, or worse, end elections with some excuse, THEN legal means have failed, and it’s time for out-of-rhe-box solutions.

        I understand that people are frustrated, and want action, and that’s good. But if we respect the Constitution (which is the very foundation of this battle with MAGA) we have to reserve that righteous indignation for the moment, and let this play out until they violate the Constitution so badly that it becomes ineffective. Something like cancelling elections.

        Then we have the moral authority to act decisively. And when it happens, we will have plenty of support. All the military leadership they fired, all the legal power the they fired, etc., will all support the resistance.

        In addition, Trump and MAGA are REVILED by the rest of the world. Not only will our allies refuse to support Trump, they are likely to heavily support his opposition. Even those that claim to be his friend hate him, and are unlikely to help him in any substantial way, and risk retaliation and sanctions from the other nations.

        If you respect the Constitution, you have to let it play out, but we all see where this is going.

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          By the time people like you realize the legal means have long failed, it will be too late.

          The constitution has a clause for this specifically: the 2nd amendment.

          Why don’t you read up on what Thomas Jefferson and James Madison have to say on the topic?

          And for the record, this isn’t a “battle against MAGA”. It is a battle against corporations. I’d recommend figuring out who your enemy is first.

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            Wow, so condescending.

            We have a 250 year old Republic that has survived far worse than MAGA. We got through the Civil War, and we will get through this.

            I know what Jefferson, et al said about the Tree of Liberty and all that, but we aren’t there yet.

            Frankly, your post is a bit hypocritical. You advocate for throwing away the Constitution and just have a revolution, while you cite the 2nd Amendment. Do you respect the Constitution, or don’t you? You can’t ignore it on one hand, and still use it as justification with the other.

            If you do respect the Constitution, then let it play out, and respond to the MAGA response. I believe it is a better than 50% chance that there will have to be some violence during the MAGA end game, because they will have to play their final card before surrendering or being ruthlessly crushed, but it will be useless, and almost certainly pathetic.

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              For one I agree with you. I hate how fast everything is going to shit too but I still have hope and want to avoid mass bloodshed and conflict. If there’s a legal way to take these monsters to the gallows, we should pursue every avenue.

              It’s always so brave and impressive that these revolutionaries have the time to stoke violent insurrection on Lemmy whilst they’re serving on the front lines of the rebellion themselves! Such dedication to the cause.