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    More like a group. Any group that would even contemplate it is a joke in the US. And hivemind revolutions where everyone rises up independently have never happened; there’s always a counterelite giving orders and enforcing internal compliance with them.

    I mean, you can barely get people to vote spontaneously, forget risk taking a bullet. The whole idea of it being spontaneous basically comes out of propaganda written after revolutions (good or bad) to manufacture legitimacy. Now, a coup by someone already in power is another matter. That’s basically in process already in the US.

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      What if we rely on direct action that makes each participant better off, like unions? IMHO the problem with relying on people to vote spontaneously is that it’s cooperating on a prisoner’s dilemma.

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        Yeah, I do activism as well. Particularly the boring kind nobody else shows up for. It doesn’t really contradict any of this.

        Although if I was in America I don’t think I’d bother. Who knows if unions will even be legal in a few years? (Well, I’d guess the MAGA ones will last, but it’s an example) Edit: Getting out would be the main priority, and maybe helping others do so.

        IMHO the problem with relying on people to vote spontaneously is that it’s cooperating on a prisoner’s dilemma.

        What do you mean? There’s no penalty for voting, and more or less anyone can run, so it’s not like there’s nobody to vote for. The only good reason not to is just the hassle.

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          That’s exactly it. To a selfish individual, the time cost is far greater than the benefit of one additional vote.

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            Exactly. And the cost only goes up from there. There isn’t really an easy solution to the world’s problems unfortunately, because we made them in the first place. I try anyway.