Following Tuesday night’s resounding victory for Democrats across the country, Donald Trump came up with a long to-do list Wednesday morning that he thinks is the solution to what ails Republicans. And bizarrely, during his postelection meltdown, he claimed that Americans need ID to buy groceries.

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    claimed that Americans need ID to buy groceries

    Except that’s not what he said… He just mentioned places, not the product (groceries); so could easily be referring to alcohol or cigarettes.

    He’s an out-of-touch dangerous idiot and his brain is Swiss cheese, but this is garbage reporting.


    EDIT: Nope. I was wrong. There’s precedent.

    But he soon made clear he was actually talking about food, specifically mentioning “a box of cereal” in an interview three months later. In 2023, he falsely claimed identification was needed “if you buy a loaf of bread.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/05/politics/fact-check-trump-groceries-identification

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      He stated that you have to present ID when you go the the grocery store and the gas station, not when you buy cigarettes or alcohol. His statements, at face value, are simply factually incorrect.

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        Yes if you interpret everything in a literal sense as explicitly stated… but that’s not how most people speak and, as already established, his brain is swiss cheese.

        A cunning linguist, he isn’t. Whenever he speaks, only good happen. Everything’s not computer.

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            “Nothing bad can happen; only good happen” and “everything’s computer” are both quotes from Trump during this term.

            If you try to take his words and phrasing at face value, only reading what is explicitly stated, you end up with nothing. The man speaks like a toddler quite often.

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              Let’s give the guy who literally lies about everything every single day the benefit of the doubt!

              Just stop.

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                This isn’t about giving him the benefit of any doubt; this is about what he said vs. What he didn’t say, and realizing that the man couldn’t articulate a point to save his life.

                “Just stop”

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                  He didn’t leave any gaps unsaid.

                  “All we want is voter ID, you go to a grocery store, you have to give ID, you go to a gas station, you give ID, but for voting, they want no voter ID. It’s only for one reason, and it’s because they cheat. We would pass that in 15 minutes,” Trump ranted, seeming to slur his words at times. “If you don’t get it, you’ll never pass that. You’ll never talk about mail-in ballots. Mail-in ballots make it automatically corrupt.”

                  He literally said you need ID at the grocery store and gas station but not voting which is the exact opposite of my experience yesterday when I did not need an ID for a grocery store or gas station but I did have to present it to vote because of shitty state laws. You are trying to figure out some way to make his irrational and ignorant lies somehow reasonable for whatever reason. Stop that, he has proven his opinions are as ignorant and stupid as they appear to be when he doubles down on them over and over again despite being told he is wrong.

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              Do you know where that quote is from, though? It’s from a Trump rally before covid. “You need an ID to buy groceries” is a well known right wing meme. He repeats this lie because it advances the right wing idea that American elections are influenced by left wing radicals and illegal immigrants who fraudulently vote. It’s not based in any kind of truth and never was.

              He doesn’t repeat this phrase because he’s an imbecile. (He is an imbecile, but that’s not why he repeats this phrase.) He repeats this phrase because it’s propaganda. It’s got the illusion of truth. “You need an ID to buy groceries” sounds close enough to the truth that people who already agree with the point he’s making won’t question it.

              Showing ID is a common and normal.

              therefore

              Requiring an ID to vote is not a burden.

              Propaganda doesn’t have to be accurate, it just needs to feel relatable. Don’t excuse Trump for saying these things.

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                I’m not excusing him, I’m saying the article is stretching what he said. The narrative he’s pushing is wrong and the point he’s trying to make is painfully stupid: but making shit up isn’t a good rebuke.

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                  Ok my mistake I guess, because what you said sounded a lot like “Why does everyone take him seriously? He’s a moron.” Whereas he’s repeating a knowingly false claim on purpose and I don’t really see where the article is stretching what he said.

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                    Okay I can see how you read it that way. NP. Yes, he should be taken seriously, that’s why I tried to emphasize with ‘dangerous.’

                    I’ve never heard the claim as stated in the article before. As for why I interpret it to be “stretching”, maybe this person’s reply and mine would help give context as to where I’m coming at this from.

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                  1. This is Leopard Ate My Face, not News.
                  2. This toddler’s words are making life hell for everyone who isn’t white because is the president.

                  Liberal or not, I don’t tolerate that dismissive attitude when this is the fucking president.

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                    Firstly, pointing out the community hardly seems relevant when nothing about this article fits with the theme.

                    Secondly, fuck off then? I hate the guy. I’m dismissive of garbage writing of a garbage article from a garbage outlet. There are plenty of things to be concerned and angry about, but this isn’t even worth the very letters I’m typing right now. If you don’t like my comment: downvote, block, move on.

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          in a literal sense

          It’s not interpreting it literally, it’s a perfectly normal way to interpret what he said. Maybe Trump did mean only when you buy alcohol or cigarettes, but thinking he meant you have to present ID whenever you go is a perfectly valid interpretation, based on his phrasing.

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      I’d maybe go with that, but this isn’t the first time he’s made this claim and it’s clear what he means.

      (2018)

      At a rally in Tampa, Florida, he said: “You know, if you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card, you need ID.”

      “You go out and you want to buy anything, you need ID and you need your picture,” he told the crowd at the “Make America Great Again” rally on Tuesday night.

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        How? I literally just said he’s an idiot. I’m a leftist… There’s no cope, there’s just facts (which are plenty bad on their own btw) and making shit up.

        This article is trash and the outlet is on my shitlist. I complete agree with the sentiment, but this isn’t good journalism.

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      You’re correct. It’s super annoying when articles take quotes out of context to create a narrative. You get into a debate with someone else, reference the article, then look dumb when they point out that’s not what was actually implied.

      Here’s his exact quote:

      “All we want is voter ID, you go to a grocery store, you have to give ID, you go to a gas station, you give ID, but for voting, they want no voter ID. It’s only for one reason, and it’s because they cheat. We would pass that in 15 minutes,” Trump ranted, seeming to slur his words at times. “If you don’t get it, you’ll never pass that. You’ll never talk about mail-in ballots. Mail-in ballots make it automatically corrupt.”

      It’s pretty clear he’s talking about having to use your ID when required at grocery stores and gas stations, i.e. to buy tobacco and alcohol.

      Yes you can interpret it as him saying that he’s going to require an id to buy groceries and gas but that requires a ton of mental gymnastics. Trump doesn’t need fake narratives to sound like a fascist, there’s plenty of actual examples to pick from, but this ain’t it. The fact that he’s trying to get rid of mail in voting is already insane enough

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        Exactly this. The point he’s seemingly making is a terrible point, but (effectively) misquoting him doesn’t help in any way, it just gives them an easy echo-chamber-reinforced defense: they point out mischaracterizations as examples of “derangement” and shut down rather than engaging with the subject.

        His narrative is wrong and his point is stupid: that should be enough; no need to stretch it for a clickbait headline. But here we are…