• Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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    Straw man. Vegans don’t claim veganism is natural. That would be a logical fallacy, anyway. Vegans claim that what you do to animals is cruel, violent, and needless.

    Biologically, you are an herbivore; the more meat you eat, the younger you die, and the more major diseases you experience. Biological meat eaters don’t get heart disease and diabetes from eating meat, for example. But let’s say that you are a (non-obligate) omnivore. That means you can choose not to be cruel and violent. If you don’t have to harm vulnerable individuals to be happy and healthy, then why do it?

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      Biological meat eaters don’t get heart disease and diabetes from eating meat, for example.

      Humans do not get diabetes (type 2 the most common) from eating meat, it’s a direct result of pernicious carbohydrate consumption

      The same for heart disease

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      We are omnivores.

      The only reason why we experience those diseases is because we eat too much meat as an omnivore.

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      Omnivorous adaptations seen in humans include our teeth structure, dexterous hands, and historical ability to adapt to nearly any environment.

      Herbivores usually have adaptations like cellulase, ruminating, and coprophagia to cope with digesting plant matter. They also consume meat in many cases.

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        Gorillas, pandas… basically every great ape we evolved from, or in parallel with: all herbivores. Many of them have sharper and larger canines than us and more dextrous hands.

        Our closest living relatives: chimpanzees and bonobos; both frugivores.

        We share far more similarities with frugivores than any other species classified as an omnivore. There is a very good argument to be made that only reason humans are ‘omnivores’ is our modern diet, ergo: humans currently eat significant amounts of meat and so are classified as such by biologists - but it is a behavioural definition, not physiological.

        The bigger issue is really ‘what is good for us’, and there are study after study coming out every month saying we should be eating more fibre, plants, antioxidants, etc - and far less meat and saturated fats.

        10870

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      Biological meat eaters don’t get heart disease and diabetes from eating meat, for example.

      You should go and tell vets so they’re aware too.

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      If you don’t have to harm vulnerable individuals to be happy and healthy, then why do it

      almost no one does that