• prole@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    Yeah but I’m not so sure we should be allowing people to make that choice on a whim because they’re depressed or feeling down at the time. Humans are wildly impulsive sometimes.

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      2 years ago

      They’re not drive thru places. Typically you have to go thru counseling and thru evaluations to make sure it’s what you want. But right now people are just buying guns to blow their heads off and leaving their body for first responders or their family to find. People are always going to kill themselves, you might as well make it a clean and dignified end.

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        2 years ago

        People are always going to kill themselves, but programs like MAID make it more attractive to people that normally wouldn’t.

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        2 years ago

        On topic: Dignity includes being able to determine one’s own end. However, it is difficult to find a regulation that excludes knee-jerk reactions and external influence in the decision.

        A distinction should also be made here between different forms of temporary mental problems and fatal physical illnesses as a reason for ending the own life.

        That’s why I’m not sure what I would support here.

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        2 years ago

        Why? What’s the offensive part of that?

        Is it how accessible it is? Because for millions of American households, needing to venture out into public is less accessible than the firearm of their nearest “responsible gun owner”.

        Is it that a company makes a small profit from each suicide? Because the guns used in all these suicides aren’t given away for free.

        Way back in 1999 when this episode first aired, the joke was that phone booths have been replaced by suicide booths, a joke written when the Nokia 5110 was a flagship phone.

        But of course, 25ish years later, neither phone booths nor suicide booths are anywhere to be found because they simply can’t match the convenience of the phone in your pocket or the gun in your drawer.

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          It’s primarily the accessibility, yes.

          While I support assisted suicide being an option, it should have requirements including a wait period.

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        2 years ago

        Why not? That’s the logical conclusion.

        Assisted suicide requires that one’s desire takes preeminence over any future value of existence and that society has a responsibility to satisfy this desire.

        Adding a restriction on when you are allowed to assist in it (besides purely the subject’s immediate desire) is special pleading. This is why MAID in Canada is slippery sloping into euthanasia for all and any reason, because there is no actual barrier to it after they accepted the initial premises.