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Here’s the thing though… I’ve been on Reddit for over a decade before Lemmy, and whilst there may be less interaction the interactions themselves have been far more sincere. People are more willing to engage, and even with this random comment there’s a chance someone would comment below.
The community feel of Lemmy is something, at least I’ve found, Reddit had lost a very long time ago.
Sort of a quality Vs quantity thing I guess?
well all that’s just like, your opinion man.
In fact kind of reminds me of how Reddit was back then.
It’s sometimes unbearable on Lemmy. I have stated that using Linux is very hard for noobs and it’s not useful still for general audience. I have got so many downvotes just because of this, you won’t believe. It feels like community is Linux users , who are acting as nerds or are nerds, and they are somewhat inclusive of outsiders. Lemmy feels like a club for only the so called intellectuals and they want to barr regular person getting in. This is also evident with Lemmy worlds or alternative of subbreddits. If you try to find some they still don’t exists. Further Lemmy is very hard to understand , even I struggle to understand how it works. But the access to different Lemmy’s is good, via boost app. The Lemmy worlds though they don’t look as polished as Reddit does but that’s cause Lemmy is evolving. So in summary Quality of posts, strong sense of non inclusivity by lemmye’rs , understanding of how Lemmy works and old feel of Lemmy are the reasons is keeping people out.
I feel you. I don’t give one single fuck about Linux. My lemmy experience got better when I filtered out Linux across the board. The “hive mind” here is way more super-geek than reddit ever was. I’m a craftsman, just about the only reason I turn my
computerChromebook on is to send invoices. And that makes a lot of lemmy mad it seems. I feel way more like this guy here than I ever did on reddit.Same here
If Linux fandom is your biggest gripe, I’d say we’re in pretty good shape here.
I bring the quality. 😊
in awe
It’s novel for sure. But I miss being able to scream into a void
You still CAAAAAAAAANNN
Scream not into the void, I may scream back.
Then it’s not a void
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FWIW Lemmy has fully replaced Reddit as my go-to toilet reading material, and I’m sure there are many other lurkers around here who don’t post much and thus don’t show up in these stats. The more niche communities are still lacking in content, yes, but these things are best left to grow organically over a long period of time to maintain quality. It was the same on Reddit too before the enshittification escalated.
Zoomed out graph including some months before the join wave
Users/month are relatively stable now at 33x users/month compared to pre join wave (users/month is people who have posted or commented)
Seriously, people need to stop getting in their heads about this shit. We are doing awesome, we can sit around and let lemmy slow loose users for a longggg time before we have even begun to actually be backtracking.
This is what winning looks like, it’s just the realistic version of winning.
This whole section of the graph will be that invisible part on the left in a couple years. Going up and down is normal as long as it’s trending up.
Beautiful
First of all, rooting for decentralized net 100%. Watching Tumblr, Reddit, Twitter, etc. all get screwed over from the top down sucks. I really appreciate the strong community here - having it smaller and more engaging encourages participation and makes it feel a little more human.
However, I’m considering leaving Lemmy just because somehow it’s even more cynical than reddit, and I’m losing interest in opening the app if it’s just 99% downers. I mean almost every article is just crushingly bad news. The world is in a rough state for sure, and staying informed is really important! But trying to live on and find the good is near impossible here.
(Yes, I’m subbed to upliftingnews. That’s the 1%.)
Is this a demographics thing, or am I just subbed in all the wrong places? Maybe a bit of both?
Also so many Linux memes
Seriously Linus memes must have 20k of the remaining 35k users.
Put a Linux filter on and lemmy gets better.
I’ve been doing my best to add content. I’m currently working on a book review, a video game review, and a Battletech post. Unfortunately posts like that take time and are outpaced by the tempo of news articles and resulting arguments within.
If you want a more positive experience you should unsubscribe from all the news & politics stuff. Trust me, when you click on “frontpage all”, it will be there. No reason to also have it in your subscribe feed. Go into the creative communities and at the very least comment. Give some feedback, and ideally add something of your own. Lemmy is too small to simply expect content to exist without adding some of your own.
@setsneedtofeed this! We are building something here. Not sure where you post but I’m adding you to my follows so I’ll see your OC.
You could just add cat memes instead
I’m also posting faster low effort stuff, but I really want posts with some meat to them.
Sub to a bunch of hobby communities and browse only those rather than the “all” content if you want to get rid of the doom. You’re gonna have lesser content to consume, for sure, but that’s just a bonus in my book.
the niche communities that i subbed to here after being a reddit refugee are mostly ghost towns… kind of a bummer.
I blocked all the news communities for this reason. Just go down your feed and look at the name of the community and if the post or community isnt what you want to see or interested in than block it. Ive been doing that and my feed has improved dramatically. Theres only so much depressing stuff im willing to expose myself to, some people get off on the emotional charge seeing that kind of news, not me though.
Spend so time on Risa. We’re a big ball of love! And Star Trek memes!
The sort of people with the moral height to migrate to decentralized platforms are also, likely, the sort of people to be realists – the world is fucked, hiding from the truth doesn’t make it go away.
And just reading about it doesn’t either… being informed is important but letting negativity consume your world view isn’t healthy or productive, it’s just angsty.
Well said.
I dunno why people dislike your take - I think it’s spot on.
Part of that truth is also that there is positive news out there, more than people are necessarily aware of, but OPs very valid point is you rarely find that discussed on Lemmy. And when it is brought up people take great delight in torpedoing it. That’s not realistic, that’s defeatist doomerism.
It’s a capitalism thing. It’s a race to the bottom, and the system is winning.
Bit of both! I like the aquarium sub here. I also get really sick of the same bad news over and over again. Especially since a lot of the sources are…not reliable sources… I generally stick to stuff like conversation subs gardening, gaming, etc.
I think you’re right. I spend way less time here than on reddit, because the content just sucks in comparison. And I don’t need to waste my time explaining to someone from hexbear why they are completely lost
Probably both. I try not to sub to any news type communities since they mostly just bring you down.
I think more serious and organic discussion isn’t necessarily going to be positive all the time.
The actual content is way better now than it was the first couple of months after the Reddit thing. Initially a lot of the comments were either Reddit related or people trying to force communities that didn’t necessarily have the population to survive, yet. That’s all fallen away now and the content feels much more organic. Someone opening a Lemmy instance for the first time is going to find today’s front page much more engaging than what it looked like in June/July.
Lemmy is becoming its own thing rather than a reflection of Reddit.
In some ways a lot more responsive as well. The news that Kissinger died was all over Lemmy for hours before I noticed one post about it crack the front page of Reddit, for example.
Yeah the stream of stuff hitting my front page is a lot higher in quality and volume in the last few months. I don’t post on reddit anymore but still visit for content and I am doing that less and less lately.
I’m finding the opposite…
Lots of posts made by bots, with majority top level comments being short quips and attempts at jokes as opposed to discussion. So many discussions devolve into ad hominems almost immediately.
Just like Reddit.
It’s a social media phenomenon I think. The lowest common denominator will always dominate unless communities push against it.
I’ve found myself getting frustrated with the number of lemmy communities that are essentially just bots mirroring the respective reddit sub.
The lemmit.online bot specifically mirrors a lot of reddit, block that one account and the bot content drops significantly.
I don’t care I’m here to stay. Only community I miss is formuladank for F1 shitposting. Been trying to get it going here but no traction yet. Everything else, Lemmy 4 life.
F1
No traction
Nice
So dank!
Bwoah
Don’t worry fam. Spez has several moves left in the Elonshitification playbook.
He hasn’t even begun to malign ethnic or religious groups, accept no blame, and blame said groups’ advocacy organizations for the problem!
Oh, he has. You are just limiting your view to English-speaking subreddits, while non-English reddit is booming with terrorists.
If you really want to know how these companies would operate their websites, just look at the corners there of regions where they can’t or won’t be sued, or no press will cover the kind of awful content they allow.
Let’s see what the earth thinks.
It’s ok, it’s just us cool kids left
That’s right, for once us COOL kids run things, not those mean jocks and their cheerleader girlfriends…
Right…
My mum says their cool.
Don’t let yourself be fooled. Lemmy is doing great. It’s got a lot more user than half a year ago and it will continue to grow. You should look at the bigger perspective here. People are starting to understand the point of the Fediverse more and more and it will eventually take over enshitified platforms such as Reddit
I’m quite happy with the small town pub atmosphere myself. Good prices, good banter, the occassional bar fight… Just my style.
I like your style…
Yeah the threadiverse has really improved for me in the last few months. It seems a lot more active with solid discussion happening.
For anybody interested, the monthly active users including voters is
131,150(131k)The one in the graph only takes into account people who have made a post or comment
Edit: The halfyear active users including voters is
253,166(253k)This is a great metric-explainer. What impressive numbers. Now we really know how successful this migration has been.
I didn’t realize commenting was an important metric. I check lemmy everyday but rarely have something useful to say.
Ooh, that’s my preferred global population! That’s a good sign!
That engagement ratio is super high when you look at it this way. 118k-ish posters/commenters and 131k total users? Damn. Good job Lemmy.
The 118k is half year aka 6 months
The one around 35k is month
Still though - like I know it was boosted by the reddit exodus and so the 6mos stats are inflated, but still not too shabby.
Imma here, just a lurker
Wahhhhhhhhka
I think its because we aren’t allowed by default to post images, which I completely understand after what happened back a couple months ago. I’ve been using Lemmy for more then 4 months actively but yet I still don’t have permission to post pictures because of the fact that I’m too lazy to even try to get it enabled. This is a major reason why we aren’t seeing a lot of content.
Also, this tends to be mostly a leftist leaning app, so maybe some people get drawn away.
being left leaning is not the issue, but when opinions even slightly to the right of extreme left are censored and removed, it doesn’t encourage participation or conversation
Where is that happenening outside of lemmygrad? I have literally never once seen that happening outside of that place…
Though it happens literally 24/7 on alt-right social media or reddit /r/conservative 😂 you can speedrun any% ban time by saying “I think covid was handled poorly” lol
Plenty of liberal techbros around on lemmy. Also are you aware of the Nazi Bar phenomenon.
I’m liberal, but no techbro. Try saying something remotely luddite and watch what happens.
Iron pans >>> Teflon.
Gas stove >>> induction stove
Hell no. Gas stoves heat the air more than they heat food, they’re dirty (both in terms of emissions and being a bugger to clean) and not a single bit faster. With ordinary resistive electric you might’ve had half a point, gas has its pros and cons there, but induction is superior to all in all relevant metrics. Well, modulo woks that’s a different topic but do you even have one.
My point has been proven. You fell right into my trap.
No images is I think a lemm.ee-only thing, other instances are still allowing it. It was severely size-limited even before the whole CSAM situation to save on storage, and, IIRC, paraphrasing sunaurus: “Imgur exists.”
Can you explain to me what happened a couple months ago why people can’t post pictures? And what should one do to enable it?
CSAM Spam. That’s what happened. Most people thankfully only noticed the moderator posts, but those understandably don’t want to have to filter that all day long.
Idk reddit even has become wayy more leftist. Its just the inevitable trend
I was really on-board of the idea of Lemmy in the beginning. It all made a lot of sense, and I felt like a part of the community.
But now it feels like its just an echo chamber of people, who seems to have very extreme beliefs.
It’s starting to be clear that the whole “ML - Leninism Marxism” was actually a big part of Lemmy.
I’m a centrist, slightly leaning towards the left, but I don’t feel like I truly belong in the demographic of Lemmy any longer. Reddit is starting to pull me back, and Boost still works, which only makes it harder to resist…
Extreme leftist politics, memes, linux, a weirdly active Star Trek community (comparatively) and blocking furry/anime porn communities daily. That’s been my experience so far.
a weirdly active Star Trek community (comparatively)
How so?
I like that I can somewhat recognize usernames across all the lemmy post I comment in. Im not sure if anyone really notices me or recognizes my username and goes ‘Oh hey its smokeydope again’ but I do that for some other active lemmy users and it starts to feel like we are all acquaintances working together to make an interesting experience for eachother and not just competing for attention without adknowledging eachother.
Oh hey it’s dopeysmoke again.
Oh I see you all the time, you’re something of a local legend around here.
Yeah… and sometimes you find some uttery shitty people who use multiple account to comment shame you or think they are better than you while having a self conversation on your post ! Uhhhg !
I don’t care that the fediverse has a ton of traffic. It may not have the most users, but it definitely has the best
People complaining about a loss of users are the same people that will complain about performance issues next time there is a huge influx of users that stresses the infrastructure for popular instances.
I’m contributing because I’m a bit of a meme repository and I get a more positive reception here than I do on Reddit.
Lemmy is in a healthy state.
