• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    18 hours ago

    Except it literally is a conspiracy (An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.) and actually happening. Debatably it’s legal, rightful, and not subversive. I think most people would disagree though. It’s not like people are just guessing this is happening. We know the data is being sold, to the police/government, and presumably also to other companies.

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      18 hours ago

      In this case, it might not involve the surveillance company selling or sharing anything. All an insurance adjuster has to do is knock on doors in the area and ask the home owners if they are willing to share any video footage they have.

      And yes, people do this all the time. I work in this industry.

      I really hate to stand on the side of the data hoarding conglomerates, but there’s a significant chance they were not involved in the release of that video.

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        Just to be clear in most places it’s not legal to have a video camera pointed at the street (or your neighbors’ houses). Not that this has been enforced at all. But if somebody wanted to pursue you legally for that they could.

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          What places?

          Usually it’s a misinterpretation of the law, they are not meant to interfere with security and law enforcement. There’s always exceptions, usually it’s how they trigger or store the data. If it’s automatically wiped, usually no laws have been broken for example.

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            Don’t know about most places but regarding Germany, OP is correct. It’s verboten to film property of neighbours, public places or places shared with neighbours with your statically installed surveillance camera. You have to get consent of filming neighbours and you have to put up signs informing persons like delivery drivers that they’re getting filmed. That’s what my short search resulted in.

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              What country? I’m sure there’s exceptions that you don’t know about, the laws normally don’t disallow their use, it’s in how the data is stored.

              A security system that doesn’t record, but is watched by someone would be legal anywhere for example. Just the fact that there’s one, means sweet fuck all.

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                  17 hours ago

                  That applies to audio… not video recordings mate.

                  Why are you telling me to chill? Because I used a bloody swear word…?

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                  Your link completely refutes what you’re saying lol

                  The legality of video recording hinges on the concept of a “reasonable expectation of privacy.” You are permitted to record video of your own property and public spaces visible from your property, such as sidewalks and the street in front of your house.

                  Maybe try reading it next time “compliance expert”

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                    That only applies if you aren’t recording audio as well.

                    The article is just a general overview of specifically Ring cameras and not specific to any one state or other recording devices. In my state for instance it is also illegal to be able to see license plates from personally owned security cameras, though we have Flock cameras here so yeah…

                    Why do so many people on Lemmy just really need a “gotcha”?

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      17 hours ago

      Sure, but people STILL knock on the doors. They likely didn’t participate in a conspiracy to get it, sorry.

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      And the companies are funded by the CIA and other feds.

      It’s on purpose because if the government did it outright people would get made… So instead they are killing all trust in American government by hiding behind other companies.

      The same thing the government is doing with crypto and other surveillance and ai…

      Listen to some Whitney webb on YouTube she’s all about talking about that stuff…

      Pretty sure it’s basically project 2025… America is funding these Epstein crime family types to basically build a new world lifestyle of most aspects of life being tracked more than they already are.