Immigration all over the world from regions that have been destabilized for decades (due to the West’s interference in addition to local issues*) is scaring all of the MAGA-esque people of each country. Also the LGBTQ stuff is too much change for these people, and so they allow themselves to be grifted by the ultra-wealthy in all of the countries to give away even more of their rights so they can achieve “safety” in their minds.
Fear is the most primal motivator, and while their fears are misplaced, they’re being accelerated and exploited by the elite to further divide and conquer. Tale as old as time.
More surveillance doesnt mean more safety. The US’s murder resolution rate is 50% despite more surveillance than most countries. Even New York City, a place with an ungodly number of city controlled cameras and even more private cameras STILL has a murder resolution rate of around 50% as well.
And the resolution means a person is arrested and charged. It does not mean convicted. I don’t know how often charges are dropped due to changes or acquittals or having a conviction overturned later due to any number of factors. All this means the percentage of solved murders is probably even less.
Wow, lots to unpack here, first, I feel your pain, but I’m from elsewhere, so not the same pain. Seems you misunderstand the idea, surveillance (trading liberty for security) has historically failed to help. The original quote is from Ben Franklin “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” This is an idea aimed at governance, not local security (murder solving percentages and so forth)
Best I can offer from a place where that’s not a big thing, is try to make it not a big thing where you are, many societies manage. Happy to try to help, but some context is needed from here.
There is where you lost me. Their fears of… what… exactly? The gay/les/trans agenda? (to not live in hiding and fear of being murdered for whom one likes or loves?) That is not legitimate.
I will seek to understand. I will approach with curiosity. But to say their fears are legitimate is a bridge too far. There is no paradox of tolerance when one side does not agree or adhere to the social contract. That side wants LGBTQ+ people eliminated. They forfeit the social contract.
Immigration all over the world from regions that have been destabilized for decades (due to the West’s interference in addition to local issues*) is scaring all of the MAGA-esque people of each country. Also the LGBTQ stuff is too much change for these people, and so they allow themselves to be grifted by the ultra-wealthy in all of the countries to give away even more of their rights so they can achieve “safety” in their minds.
Fear is the most primal motivator, and while their fears are misplaced, they’re being accelerated and exploited by the elite to further divide and conquer. Tale as old as time.
Those who would trade liberty for security, deserve neither and will have none. - KMFDM by way of Franklin.
More surveillance doesnt mean more safety. The US’s murder resolution rate is 50% despite more surveillance than most countries. Even New York City, a place with an ungodly number of city controlled cameras and even more private cameras STILL has a murder resolution rate of around 50% as well.
And the resolution means a person is arrested and charged. It does not mean convicted. I don’t know how often charges are dropped due to changes or acquittals or having a conviction overturned later due to any number of factors. All this means the percentage of solved murders is probably even less.
Wow, lots to unpack here, first, I feel your pain, but I’m from elsewhere, so not the same pain. Seems you misunderstand the idea, surveillance (trading liberty for security) has historically failed to help. The original quote is from Ben Franklin “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” This is an idea aimed at governance, not local security (murder solving percentages and so forth)
Best I can offer from a place where that’s not a big thing, is try to make it not a big thing where you are, many societies manage. Happy to try to help, but some context is needed from here.
Obligatory (sigh) hope I’m actually talking to a person, not an AI…
Their fears are legitimate. But yes, they are being exploited.
And the liberal/left agenda won’t acknowledge those fears. So they won’t get those people’s votes.
There is where you lost me. Their fears of… what… exactly? The gay/les/trans agenda? (to not live in hiding and fear of being murdered for whom one likes or loves?) That is not legitimate.
I will seek to understand. I will approach with curiosity. But to say their fears are legitimate is a bridge too far. There is no paradox of tolerance when one side does not agree or adhere to the social contract. That side wants LGBTQ+ people eliminated. They forfeit the social contract.