• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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    10 hours ago

    Plenty of people around the world felt this during bidens term. Just because most americans didnt (not all, BTW), doesnt mean biden wasnt part of awful crimes against humanity, just like the presidents before him. America has been a brutal and unforgiving nation for a long time.

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      4 hours ago

      Complete nonsense. Global views of the country, most importantly our allies were quite high and people were optimistic about American leadership. Compare that to now where confidence in our country and it’s leadership is at an all time low and some of our strongest alliances are damaged by the sheer stupidity of the orange buffoon.

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        7 hours ago

        Never said they were the same, just that they are both awful people that shouldnt lead a nation.

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        Not the same, but Americans need to wake up and realise simply going back to nicer neoliberalism is not enough. Not enough to keep this from happening again.

        You’re stuck in the thinking that you need to choose between the two party choices that are presented to you.

        You may need to vote one of two ways, but the other days of the year you could be working to ensure that the parties you have to vote on are better.

        Part of doing that is criticizing current and past choices

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        6 hours ago

        Yeah, I don’t get why people say this. Trump is, for whatever selfish reason, at least trying to stop the genocide. I don’t understand how you can compare him to people who aid and abet the killing of thousands of humans.

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          4 hours ago

          He’s really not. He wants to be seen as “ending wars” because that’s what he campaigned on. I don’t think he cares one way or another about Palestinians.

          The reason there’s a ceasefire is because Hamas finally returned hostages. That’s all, and that’s not because of any negotiating Trump did, but because the war has been so one sided for so long that Hamas was losing power, so they needed to refocus on maintaining control. If Harris had won, we would likely see the same thing on a similar timeline, though perhaps with more aid to people in Gaza.

          Don’t give Trump credit for anything that’s happening in Gaza. Don’t give it to Biden either. Both could and should have been tougher on Israel.