• nekbardrun@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Global views of the country, most importantly our allies were quite high and people were optimistic about American leadership.

    Here is the problem that you won’t be able to see.

    Such allies had a past of colonizing the “third world”, “Global south”, “non-western countries” or whatever labels kids these days use to label the “not allies”.

    My country, Brazil, was/is one that fought hard to really get a good global view.

    Though I’m not sure if we can maintain the good will of most countries if Trump decides to bomb just a little south to Venezuela (Which would hit Roraima or other Brazilian state, mostly) and start to call us narco-terrorist (and there was an attempt to do so).

    But still, to my point, It is hard to find any country who hates Brazil.

    For that reason I’d say that My country should’ve be used as parameter of (positive) global views given how known we are and how there is basically no bad blood between Brazil and any other country.

    Edit: Only 2 countries, Paraguay and Portugal, do have some animosity with Brazil.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Brazilian_sentiment

    Paraguay is a “murky water” case because of wars around 1876. It is the closest that Brazil has as current diplomatic dispute, but similar to almost all (non-military) border disputes around the world.

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      9 hours ago

      IDK, I am still not a fan of the nonsense that happened with Bolsonaro, which was much like what Trump did his first term and the Jan 6 nonsense. It’s cool that he was found guilty (he also went harder on supporting the coup), but he was still elected despite tons of warnings signs, like admiring Brazilian dictators, racist and homophobic views, and supporting voter fraud conspiracies.

      You can’t just wipe that away with the next administration.

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        I’m not a fan of Bolsonaro either.

        But my point was challenging the idea that the global view of US was high before Trump reelection.

        When the previous guy pointed that Biden was still following the political path of America’s warfare he wasn’t wrong to do so.

        No matter what party wins, US will be still an empire throwing their weight around (because they have nukes and because of dollar) and waging wars against any country who “dreams to defy US hegemony” (defy is a code word for not obeying US demands because US was always a Mafia Boss demanding a racket).

        The so called dallies, as trump has shown, are no more than countries hat happens to be closer enough to the Mafia Boss. But the Boss Uncle Sam will throw them under the bus as soon as needed to save his own life.

         

        Since you mentioned Bolsonaro, All of us, Brazilians who were not bolsonarists, saw that Bozo would betray any ally as soon as he got some heat on his back.

        The same applies to Trump, but, even more important:

        That was who US was as a nation all along.

        as Henry Kissinger said: ‘It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.’

        Downvoting anyone who denies the crimes of US under both republican and democratic presidency doesn’t change the truth value of this quote.

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          But my point was challenging the idea that the global view of US was high before Trump reelection.

          Oh sure, we’ve had problems at least since Bush, but probably earlier. I don’t know if we’ve had a net positive reputation since WW2 or so.

          That was who US was as a nation all along.

          I disagree. Believe it or not, Henry Kissinger isn’t particularly popular here. The quote is certainly valid though.

          I think it all started a bit after the Korean War. That’s when the Cold War really heated up, so it was all about getting as much power and influence to oppose the commies. But once the USSR fell, there wasn’t really an empire to oppose, so the US just kind of coasted and kept doing what it was doing.

          AFAICT, the American people don’t like what the government is doing. We didn’t want to be in Iraq, we didn’t want to stay in Afghanistan (esp. after bin Laden’s assassination), etc.

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            Sorry.

            By America as a nation I didn’t meant American people, but America’s government or America’s plans.

            Basically what you said about how US just coasted and kept doing things (wars) as usual. That’s what I meant by nation.