That’s such a copout though. There is like 3% of the population that won’t vote Democrat because they’re not super-based anarcho-communists or whatever. There is a far larger percentage of people that won’t vote Democrat because they fucking suck at doing half of what they promise, and only promise a quarter of what they should. Perfect is the enemy of good; good should be the enemy of student loans, or for-profit healthcare, or, oh yeah, fucking genocide. I voted for Kamala, I pushed people to vote for Kamala, but holy shit you can’t just bury your head in the sand and pretend that everyone who didn’t vote for her was just purity testing.
voted for Kamala, I pushed people to vote for Kamala
Half the joke of it all is liberal Lemmyites screaming “Brainwashed! Russian not! Tankies!” at all the actual Harris campaign volunteers who had to carry her water for three months and are now complaining about it.
It’s like they lose systemic analysis the minute it affects them. Talk to a liberal about drug addiction and they will immediately (correctly) point out that no one chooses drug addiction; that even if an addict individually chose to stop, it does nothing to change the underlying conditions and would largely not affect the issue. Systemic problems, systemic solutions.
But the fucking second you point out that even if cohorts of people individually chose to hold their nose and vote Dem, it would do nothing to affect the broad unpopularity of the party or move the needle on voter engagement, OH LORDY did The Left tm not vote hard enough.
I think many ITT need to hear this: perfect is the enemy of the good.
Possibly true, but not why we are where we are
Hope and strive for perfection, sure! But anyone looking for a candidate that is going to exactly mirror their own own views on policy are as misguided as those who voted for the orange shit stain because he “talks just like me.”
Again, not why we are where we are, and it’s a copout to say that. Here’s why:
I’m so tired of these takes. Trump won. I could care less if the next one is a slightly left of center corporate Democrat. The GOP has to be avoided at all costs.
Well, not all costs. If a Berniecrats gets as close to the Presidential nomination as Mamdani has to Mayor of NYC, it’s pretty clear the Dem establishment will slit it’s own throat in defiance.
The only way to avoid the GOP is to burn the existing Democratic party to ashes. That’s the lesson of the last three elections. The current Democrats are not capable of winning elections against the GOP.
That’s such a copout though. There is like 3% of the population that won’t vote Democrat because they’re not super-based anarcho-communists or whatever. There is a far larger percentage of people that won’t vote Democrat because they fucking suck at doing half of what they promise, and only promise a quarter of what they should. Perfect is the enemy of good; good should be the enemy of student loans, or for-profit healthcare, or, oh yeah, fucking genocide. I voted for Kamala, I pushed people to vote for Kamala, but holy shit you can’t just bury your head in the sand and pretend that everyone who didn’t vote for her was just purity testing.
Half the joke of it all is liberal Lemmyites screaming “Brainwashed! Russian not! Tankies!” at all the actual Harris campaign volunteers who had to carry her water for three months and are now complaining about it.
insert thank you meme
It’s like they lose systemic analysis the minute it affects them. Talk to a liberal about drug addiction and they will immediately (correctly) point out that no one chooses drug addiction; that even if an addict individually chose to stop, it does nothing to change the underlying conditions and would largely not affect the issue. Systemic problems, systemic solutions.
But the fucking second you point out that even if cohorts of people individually chose to hold their nose and vote Dem, it would do nothing to affect the broad unpopularity of the party or move the needle on voter engagement, OH LORDY did The Left tm not vote hard enough.
Good thing I didn’t say what you said i said.
I mean, who else are you talking about if not Dems who didn’t vote for Harris? Repubs who didn’t vote for trump?
You didn’t explicitly call them out by name but to me it’s pretty obvious that’s who you’re talking about.
Possibly true, but not why we are where we are
Again, not why we are where we are, and it’s a copout to say that. Here’s why:
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I’m so tired of these takes. Trump won. I could care less if the next one is a slightly left of center corporate Democrat. The GOP has to be avoided at all costs.
Well, not all costs. If a Berniecrats gets as close to the Presidential nomination as Mamdani has to Mayor of NYC, it’s pretty clear the Dem establishment will slit it’s own throat in defiance.
The only way to avoid the GOP is to burn the existing Democratic party to ashes. That’s the lesson of the last three elections. The current Democrats are not capable of winning elections against the GOP.
Agreed there is no path to reform here.
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