• Carl [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    12 hours ago

    The only reason this conversation exists is because there are billions of dollars propping up right wing grifters that don’t exist for the left. Like there ARE lefties in places like twitch, but for every one Hasan there’s a hundred Asmongolds. This is all downstream from media ownership by the capital class. Jamie pull up the Lenin quote about The Economist.

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      Am I misunderstanding you, or are you saying it requires billions of dollars to come up with effective messaging/marketing for the left, aimed at young boys and men?

      Like… I hear you that the funding gap is a huge and fundamental problem, but I frankly don’t think its difficult at all to message leftist points to younger guys.

      Give them a set of principles to hold themselves to, and explain to them why these are good principles.

      ‘A good man helps out his community to the greatest extent he can, a good man doesn’t hate others for no good reason, a good man is responsible enough to learn how to question what he is told so that he can discern the character and intent of others, a good man approaches the unknown and the strange not with fear, but with a measured yet hopeful curiosity’

      Reject toxic masculinity but don’t just leave an empty void where it was, instead, actually replace it with an actually healthy and affirming masculinity.

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      12 hours ago

      And? That doesn’t change the fact that these spaces have inherently been beaming out “no boys allowed” for ages and then wondering why so many young men head elsewhere.

      Our enemies’ tactics and financial backing doesn’t absolve us of responsibility for our own shortcomings.

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        12 hours ago

        these spaces have inherently been beaming out “no boys allowed” for ages

        I disagree that that’s what they’ve been doing. That’s what reactionaries often characterize them as doing