• DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    23 hours ago

    Yeah there are ideologies that most people can’t handle or comprehend today:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_conservatism

    This and Rockerfeller Republicanism (sometimes called the east coast elite).

    Then there are things that make more sense, like Christian Distributism, Communitarianism, Georgism. Put all this together and you realise, there are definitely ways to Socialism that run through Conservatism. Most people can’t handle or understand this idea.

    Conservativism is actually quite incompatible with Libertarianism (and even to some degree Neo-Liberalism). Conservativism and Libertarianism can be a very unhappy marriage at times.

    • SocProf@masto.aiOP
      2·
      23 hours ago

      @DarkCloud If I wanted to be charitable, I’d acknowledge that there haven’t really been progressive Republicans pretty much since Reagan, so younger conservatives haven’t been exposed to them.

      • DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        23 hours ago

        It’s unfortunate that young leftists don’t understand the real territory of rightwing politics (their deeper espoused values), because there are genuine avenues for fractures and change there.

        Conservatives tend to be statists even though they’ve been brainwashed into thinking they’re not. They tend to want grand projects, community halls, roman columns, socialism for their neighborhoods, family, community, and churches - none of which economic Libertarians agree with. Libertarians would be buying the marble back to sell it on the freemarket then eyeing the family and wondering why they can’t buy them as slaves too. Really opposing philosophies if you go by their ideals.

        Then throw the Christian Distributism, Communitarianism, and Georgism in there, and Conservativism starts to look pretty leftwing, leaving Libertarians out in the cold.

        Throw in a concept like Aesthetic Justice, the idea that poor suburbs should look and be designed to be beautiful and that that would reduce crime, create safer, more neighbourly communities - stuff like that might even break the conservative’s love of military policing.

        It’s all a matter of perspective.