Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?


I’m begging you all, please report stuff that breaks the community rules and/or TOS - no one needs to put up with that nonsense.


Oh cool, GFR has finally gone mask-off.
This has always been the case, but I’m going to take this opportunity to state that links to that site are not allowed here, and will be removed on sight.


It bugs me a bit too, but I guess there’s nothing really wrong with it being “the exception that proves the rule” - something extraordinary happened in that case, unlikely to repeat.
And the pre-existing time travel rules weren’t exactly clear-cut, either - my original response glossed over bootstrap paradoxes like “Time’s Arrow”, where the characters travel back in time because they found Data’s head in San Francisco, which was only there due to said time travel.
But then, from the perspective of people in the future, I suppose all time travel events look like bootstrap paradoxes…


the Prime timeline holds together no matter what happens to it.
This isn’t quite true. Most of the time, Star Trek asserts that time travel to the past can and does alter the “prime” timeline - this is directly observed in “Past Tense” and “First Contact” (the movie, of course), when crew members who are protected from the alterations see reality warp before their very eyes. In those cases, the time travelers are forced to do what they can to “repair” history and get events to play out reasonably similar to how they orginally had. I assume things are still different, but they’re considered “close enough”.
The Kelvin event doesn’t just make a new branch going forward. The ripple hits both directions.
This is a little contentious, but I agree with this interpretation, even though the actual films are pretty vague on exactly how the alternate reality came to be. It’s certainly a contradiction of basically every other depiction of time travel. But hey, it was a unique circumstance.
TNG’s “Parallels” deserves a mention as well, since it states that their are infinite parallel realities (and we see a bunch of them).
In general, here’s what I think is true:
An infinite number of quantum realities exist. These have nothing to do with time travel, and simply…are.
Time travel to the past can, and usually does, alter the future. Separate quantum realities are not created. These are the situations that the 26th century Federation time cops are concerned with.
The Kelvin Timeline seems to be an exception to (2), though I suppose there’s a possibility that Spock and Nero simply tunnelled over to a different quantum reality, in addition to travelling through time. This is 100% pure fanon, though.


It really is a good thing that the relocated teams still tip their helmets to their former homes, even decades later.


Thank you - this is what I’m here for.


I linked to the article!


I took it from a news article from last week, which suggests pretty strongly that that proposal is exactly what was implemented, and they never produced an updated graphic.
But again, I’d welcome a genuine correction.


If you have additional information that contradicts it, I’d happy to see it. I don’t live in Quebec, and only know what I know.


Deadline is actually an American Hollywood/entertainment industry trade outlet, so it’s definitely not a Canadian thing.
Weird metaphor to have in your style guide, though.


Rosalind Lear appears to be hiding some kind of alternative motivation for investigating into Khan and Ceti Alpha
I didn’t find this surprising in the sense that she’s seemed…biased, to say the least. But the scene with Tuvok was nice, even though in the moment I was wondering if it was Lear or Delmonda that was meant to be the liar. Context suggests it’s her, though.
The song the young augments were listening to was Your Touch released in 2021.
Interesting. I wonder if it’s a favourite of Kirsten Beyer or something - I’m a little surprised that they went to the effort of clearing a pop song of any kind.
Khan’s odd mercy towards him
I see it as a means to an end - looking like he’s living up to his end of the bargain with Delmonda. A dangerous game to be playing, though.
the inevitable loss of McGiven’s to the Ceti Eel.
I know this is consistent with the film, but part of me wishes she had met her demise more directly as a result of some choice that Khan made, if only to reinforce just how foolish she had been to join his little cult in the first place.


For a team dealing with some significant injuries, the Jets have managed to string together an impressive opening record so far.


The Lego thing was officially announced a while back.
I think Star Trek merchandise is decent…when it comes to the high-end, ridiculously-priced market.
When it comes to affordable stuff…less so.


The more I think about it, the more I feel like the decision to add these aliens to the story was a good one. It gives Khan someone to be tyrannical toward, since his cultist followers don’t really give him a reason to do monstrous things.


That’s a pain. I guess a delete and repost might do it, or on desktop you might be able to set a different thumbnail URL.


Wrong link?


General off-topic chat
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This seems to have been a relatively recent development (in TNG terms), as Azetbur seemed to be an uncontroversial pick for Chancellor.
And I think it does a disservice to omit Discovery’s take on the Klingons, if we’re taking about them growing with the audience. They took the feudal aspects and sprinkled in a healthy dose of xenophobia, which directly reflects cultural shifts over the last couple of decades.