She was not a bad candidate: a smart, fun, relatively young centrist. Her candidacy was dragged down mostly by Biden’s reluctance to tap out and by Trump barely surviving an assassination. Without either of those two things (especially the latter) she might very well have been the first female US president.
If she really becomes the candidate, the way to victory is for her not to embrace the woke left (especially the fucking morons who worked against her because they hallucinated some crazy Gaza things), and go for the center more clearly. Of course she’ll need to denounce the far right as well, but somehow I imagine that won’t be a problem for a D candidate.
And that’s the point at which you discredited yourself.
because they hallucinated some crazy Gaza things
Arms-length complicity in genocide is nearly as bad as open promotion of it.
and go for the center more clearly
And where’s that center again? Splitting the difference between run-of-the-mill corporatist Democrats and MAGA fascists? Running concentration camps for asylum seekers, but with slightly better towels and soap? Nobody will vote for MAGA Lite. If a voter wants fascism, they’ll go for the full-fat version.
The problem is that worldwide this is not a time for centrism. Promising “nothing will fundamentally change” is a great way to immediately lose an election.
You may not have noticed but the entire world has lurched to the right. You can’t win an election by wooing voters on the left, you’ll just lose votes on the right.
The American left will just stay home and pay on reddit about how the dems are secretly right wing capitalists anyway.
Embracing centrism, like real centrism and not some Joe Rogan “centrism” would be an amazing change compared to the current situation. I agree that it’s never an easy thing to sell though. Centrism is boring.
I was with you for a bit. But I disagree on a few points:
I don’t think she was dragged down as much by Biden’s reluctance to drop out so much as her failure to differentiate herself from him. You could make an argument that Biden’s late exit and the lack of a primary worked against her. She also became known early on in his administration for being difficult to work with, but this might not have weighed heavily on the minds of a disengaged electorate.
The “woke left” is basically ad hominem at this point. It’s a sort of shibboleth that right leaning voters understand but most left wingers and centrists tune out because it has been overused, sort of like “socialist” and “communist” before that. To be sure, there are irritating and unrealistic social justice warriors, but they are actually a minority and overrepresented in media.
Gaza is a genocide. Don’t take it from me, take it from the ICC, the UN, various scholars, and many dispassionate third party observers. Not sure what you mean here, but in my opinion, genocide is not something to compromise on for the greater good. Kamala would have been better on this issue than Donald Trump, but this is a huge miscalculation by the people advising her.
Denunciation of the far right is consistently a problem for Democratic leadership, with a few exceptions.
Democrats do need to realise that elections but particularly presidential elections are a gut check. People vote for the president that leads boldly and fearlessly. Someone who has conviction and doesn’t seem to deliver messaging that has been pre-planned. When Trump was shown to be inaccurate during the campaign, people liked him more because he appeared to be speaking extemporaneously.
She was not a bad candidate: a smart, fun, relatively young centrist. Her candidacy was dragged down mostly by Biden’s reluctance to tap out and by Trump barely surviving an assassination. Without either of those two things (especially the latter) she might very well have been the first female US president.
If she really becomes the candidate, the way to victory is for her not to embrace the woke left (especially the fucking morons who worked against her because they hallucinated some crazy Gaza things), and go for the center more clearly. Of course she’ll need to denounce the far right as well, but somehow I imagine that won’t be a problem for a D candidate.
And that’s the point at which you discredited yourself.
Arms-length complicity in genocide is nearly as bad as open promotion of it.
And where’s that center again? Splitting the difference between run-of-the-mill corporatist Democrats and MAGA fascists? Running concentration camps for asylum seekers, but with slightly better towels and soap? Nobody will vote for MAGA Lite. If a voter wants fascism, they’ll go for the full-fat version.
And remember: this is centre by American standards
This is center as defined by those that shape the narrative - not specifically by Americans in any representative or descriptive sense.
The problem is that worldwide this is not a time for centrism. Promising “nothing will fundamentally change” is a great way to immediately lose an election.
Great time for the US to try 3 or 4 parties
Or, more realistically, hijacking the Democratic party and dragging it kicking and screaming towards the left.
You may not have noticed but the entire world has lurched to the right. You can’t win an election by wooing voters on the left, you’ll just lose votes on the right.
The American left will just stay home and pay on reddit about how the dems are secretly right wing capitalists anyway.
Which US politician has been attempting to woo voters on the left, in your opinion?
Embracing centrism, like real centrism and not some Joe Rogan “centrism” would be an amazing change compared to the current situation. I agree that it’s never an easy thing to sell though. Centrism is boring.
I was with you for a bit. But I disagree on a few points:
Democrats do need to realise that elections but particularly presidential elections are a gut check. People vote for the president that leads boldly and fearlessly. Someone who has conviction and doesn’t seem to deliver messaging that has been pre-planned. When Trump was shown to be inaccurate during the campaign, people liked him more because he appeared to be speaking extemporaneously.