Lol, practically guaranteed that this is modeled after funding it entirely on surveillance stalkerware. Article does not make any mention of who is hosting, software openness, transparency, or ownership. Sorry OP for the negative comment, and thanks for making the effort to post. For the sake of the public, this article is nothing more than an ad, with no relevant informative value required for skeptical citizenship in any democracy. It is crap journalism, like whoring for capitalism.
I agree with you, very little information was provided but I presume this is just Tuya or some similar OEM brand and maybe you can install a local control and cut the cloud part of the equation.
At the moment it is pure speculation on my part, but I am sure there are plenty of smart folks out there who would love to tinker with it and maybe find a way to install some custom firmware to cut the stalkware.
To confirm the suspicions, yes, it is Tuya. It actually says so on the box. I’m still going to grab one, though: quite often the chipset can be reprogrammed and the fact that the specs say it’s 2.4GHz only make me think they’re using something pretty old-fashioned like an ESP32. Tuya stuff that advertises being dual-band generally isn’t worth bothering with at all.
All their smart lights are tuya, or at least the ones that I have. The esp are swappable but are soldered to the boards and their a pain to open but can be done.
I purchased some of their downlughts to add another project to the pile and to feed my curiosity.
Yeah, my rule is that any Tuya device that uses Wifi is to be avoided. I’ve got plenty of Tuya bulbs and power meters that use Zigbee, though, and they’re alright but they talk directly to Home Assistant.
The hosting and external domain are the challenging bit and what needs funding. It has been awhile since I looked into any of this, but there wasn’t an easy way to make such a thing last time I checked.
I think most of these are offloading the video feed to do the ai segmentation and analysis features that make these useful onto a hosting service. I do not expect low pricing as a feature advertised by anyone making such a comprehensive, ethical, democratically safe device. Billionaire exploitation privateer pirates have no qualms about financing hardware at break even prices for monetizing the pillaging of democracy due to the failure of citizens to remain skeptical and well informed.
If they do the object recognition on the cloud there is no way they offer those doorbells without any monthly subscription. My guess is that it is either doing something on the device or is just a dumb camera with an RTSP feed without any AI features.
My guess is the latter, considering the price. And still 20 bucks for this doorbell without a monthly subscription is a good deal. If they build something natively supporting Home Assistant that would be a killer device.
But as a friend used to say, if something is free, you are the product.
Lol, practically guaranteed that this is modeled after funding it entirely on surveillance stalkerware. Article does not make any mention of who is hosting, software openness, transparency, or ownership. Sorry OP for the negative comment, and thanks for making the effort to post. For the sake of the public, this article is nothing more than an ad, with no relevant informative value required for skeptical citizenship in any democracy. It is crap journalism, like whoring for capitalism.
I agree with you, very little information was provided but I presume this is just Tuya or some similar OEM brand and maybe you can install a local control and cut the cloud part of the equation.
At the moment it is pure speculation on my part, but I am sure there are plenty of smart folks out there who would love to tinker with it and maybe find a way to install some custom firmware to cut the stalkware.
To confirm the suspicions, yes, it is Tuya. It actually says so on the box. I’m still going to grab one, though: quite often the chipset can be reprogrammed and the fact that the specs say it’s 2.4GHz only make me think they’re using something pretty old-fashioned like an ESP32. Tuya stuff that advertises being dual-band generally isn’t worth bothering with at all.
All their smart lights are tuya, or at least the ones that I have. The esp are swappable but are soldered to the boards and their a pain to open but can be done.
I purchased some of their downlughts to add another project to the pile and to feed my curiosity.
Yeah, my rule is that any Tuya device that uses Wifi is to be avoided. I’ve got plenty of Tuya bulbs and power meters that use Zigbee, though, and they’re alright but they talk directly to Home Assistant.
The hosting and external domain are the challenging bit and what needs funding. It has been awhile since I looked into any of this, but there wasn’t an easy way to make such a thing last time I checked.
I think most of these are offloading the video feed to do the ai segmentation and analysis features that make these useful onto a hosting service. I do not expect low pricing as a feature advertised by anyone making such a comprehensive, ethical, democratically safe device. Billionaire exploitation privateer pirates have no qualms about financing hardware at break even prices for monetizing the pillaging of democracy due to the failure of citizens to remain skeptical and well informed.
If they do the object recognition on the cloud there is no way they offer those doorbells without any monthly subscription. My guess is that it is either doing something on the device or is just a dumb camera with an RTSP feed without any AI features.
My guess is the latter, considering the price. And still 20 bucks for this doorbell without a monthly subscription is a good deal. If they build something natively supporting Home Assistant that would be a killer device.
But as a friend used to say, if something is free, you are the product.
I would be incredibly interested in this if it could work with Home Assistant and didn’t require any kind of proprietary software to run.