• jwiggler@sh.itjust.works
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    He got it in Croatia btw. To me, it’s plausible he didn’t know. He seems to have gotten progressively more disillusioned by his time in the military. Comments from 2018 like

    If people “expect to fight fascism without a good semi-automatic rifle, they ought to do some reading of history,” he wrote in one since-deleted post. In another, he said that “an armed working class is a requirement for economic justice.”

    don’t scream secret nazi to me. People comparing him to Fetterman is kinda silly to me considering Platner has called what’s going on in Gaza a genocide while Fetterman is a still supporter of Israel.

    There’s a source out there, I guess, that claims they talked to Platner and he explicitly referred to his tattoo as “my totenkopf” but its an anonymous source who spoke to zionist publication Jewish Insider, so idk. Seems hit job-y to me.

    Then again what the fuck do I know. The water is pretty muddy and its a terrible look regardless.

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      If people “expect to fight fascism without a good semi-automatic rifle

      This gets said on lemmy 2-3 times a day and without any major disagreement.

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        Yeah that’s why I’m skeptical of this guy actually being a Nazi lol

        But then again the dude literally had a Nazi tattoo so that’s why this whole situation is so weird.

        I guess I can personally see it being ignorance because I didn’t learn about 88 until the last couple years.

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          Yeah that’s why I’m skeptical of this guy actually being a Nazi lol

          I think there is a tendency to look for a form of ideological coherence in others that we our selves don’t necessarily have. And that being said, there is about a 0% chance I personally would have known that the “tottenkopf” skull and crossbones wasn’t just a different artistic version of a generic skull and cross bones in 2007, because outside of American History X, I just didn’t spend time researching or even acknowledging white nationalists. They’re abhorrent. Why would I have spent my time doing that? So yeah. Like big ol swastika, I would recognize that. But more subtle symbolism? Idk, I’m not a nazi I don’t spend time knowing those things.

          That being said, in 2016-20 I did get involved with groups trying to confront white nationalism, especially in the veterans community. And in that time, I did learn more about different symbolism (although, frankly, I still don’t think I would have noticed this one; we were much more concerned with boogaloo boys, proud boys, 3%'rs, Patriot Prayer, Patriot Front).

          I think its an issue, and its clearly divided the left substantially. And I think, with Fetterman as example, for good reason. But there is a literal biophysical explanation for Fetterman. Personality shifts post stroke are well documented.

          I think its up to Graham, but there are also people doing some real diservice in the comment sections. You probably are not going to do better than Graham (assuming he’s genuine) in Maine. If you run the “safe Democrat” you are going to lose the seat. And frankly, Graham seems genuine, at least in what I’ve seen. He didn’t run, he didn’t deny. He apologized and explained.