Wait is this supposed to go in credible defense?

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  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    “If Gavin Newsom wants to oppose the training exercises that ensure our Armed Forces are the deadliest and most lethal fighting force in the world, then he can go right ahead,” Martin said.

    Not just the deadliest. The most lethal too!

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      Yeah yeah. So, just curious, when was the last time our armed forces won a war?? Like by themselves and not with a ton of our allies? I bet they’ve won a lot of wars.

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        First, having a lot of allies is strength, not weakness.

        Second, with that in mind, the last American-led major conflict that ended with the unambiguously successful attainment of America’s major goals was the first Gulf War, but the failures since then in Iraq and Afghanistan had nothing to do with the military bring insufficiently deadly. Killing people is a tool for winning wars, but not the only tool and often not a sufficient tool.

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          I think it’d be easier to list off the wins than the losses so let me give it a go. Gulf war, Korean war (I’m gonna county a tie as winning), WW2, WW1, Spanish-America war, Indian wars (not good but still a series of wins), Civil war, war of 1812 (success but not all war goals met), Revolutionary war. Not gonna count the French Indian war for this one. Any I missed?

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          8 hours ago

          Oh I think having allies is a good thing. America just seems hellbent on scorning them at the moment.

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      Everyone knows that unless you’re shooting over the heads of your own citizens it really isn’t training.