• Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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    17 hours ago

    Manosphere being a toxic shitshow of harmful beliefs and self-sabotag is nothing new.

    But in 1 way, it is very different to an abusive boyfriend. The abusive bf doesn’t necessarily start off being abusive or not as obviously so. The bf adapts to you and slowly undermines your confidence. The manosphere has it in their advertising material. The people fall for the manosphere are not slowly manipulated and abused by the manosphere. The manosphere is the new abusive boyfriend after the breakup with the last abuser. When the abuse already has been normalised and kinda wanted because at least it is “familiar”.

    So what is the first “abusive boyfriend”?

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      7 hours ago

      So what is the first “abusive boyfriend”?

      For me it was high school. Constantly being treated like shit by my peers for being weird and quiet really fucked me up. Fortunately things got better in college and I didn’t fall into the manosphere crap but I very easily could have had I not found people to give me a break and help me learn to act more “normal” without being abusive towards me.

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      16 hours ago

      From what I could witness, most likely the “first abuser” is most likely a close family member, either the (step-)father or some uncle or grandfather - people who themselves believe in such values they call “traditional”.

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        10 hours ago

        Father’s need to support their sons, show empathy, and actually engage with their children in a meaningful way. Hug your fucking kids!

        Elephant Graveyard said it first.

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        15 hours ago

        Yeah, but also (step-)mother or some aunt or grandmother, maybe even girlfriend. Not only men are pushing these “traditional” values.

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          10 hours ago

          This is true, but if even just one family member protected them from this harmful rhetoric, it saves hope for the kid.