I’ve been thinking about this amped up conservative rhetoric that liberals and leftists hate America. We all know that’s BS. Right? Except it’s not, and we should respond to it for what it is.
“I love an America I grew up in. I love an America I believe in, that I lived most of my life in. Now, the idea of America that you’re fighting and “winning” for is killing that America I live in, that I love. So you’re right. I hate what you imagine America to be… because it is trying to murder the America that I love. And I don’t use the word “murder” lightly, and I apply it to you. And if that means to you that I hate America… then you’re right! The America you believe in isn’t lovable.”
That’s all.
It’s not over until we stop fighting. You have a very defeatist attitude.
If you love America, and you think voting will be able to “fix” it, you have always already been defeated. That’s what we are trying to tell you. Your idealism of “America” is not real. And you being proud of that ideal in spite of all the very real death, exploitation, destruction in service of capitalism that “America” exists to maintain is you defeating yourself publicly.
No you don’t get it. It’s over for any delusions about america being a force for good or for the possibility that faith in its institutions can ever lead to positive change for humanity. America has always been a genocidal shit hole. End of.
That’s a reflection of American global power. Any nation with our power would be harmful to the rest of the world. We shouldn’t be a sole superpower. Not should anyone else, ideally.
If Cuba had your power the world would be a much better place.
No it wouldn’t. The USSR after 1945 helped countries free themselves from the under the boot of imperialism. China hasn’t been at war since 1975, and is helping build up countries. Just because america is imperialist doesn’t mean every country would be.
The USSR were not good guys. China suppresses and murders their own citizens. They aren’t good guys. I feel like you’re not making a good argument here. But I think you’d be hard pressed to find a country that didn’t exploit its power at the detriment of other nations, and while I’m less confident including their own citizens, no counter examples come to mind.
So you’re just an ultra-nationalist
You are just a racist piece of shit clearly. Do you know how many of its citizens the US murders every fucking day?