I’ve been thinking about this amped up conservative rhetoric that liberals and leftists hate America. We all know that’s BS. Right? Except it’s not, and we should respond to it for what it is.
“I love an America I grew up in. I love an America I believe in, that I lived most of my life in. Now, the idea of America that you’re fighting and “winning” for is killing that America I live in, that I love. So you’re right. I hate what you imagine America to be… because it is trying to murder the America that I love. And I don’t use the word “murder” lightly, and I apply it to you. And if that means to you that I hate America… then you’re right! The America you believe in isn’t lovable.”
That’s all.
If it means diplomacy over war? Yep.
You are from a country that has been at war almost continuously for as long as anyone in it can remember.
Same as every other US citizen. Not ashamed of that either.
The constant warfare? You should be.
Thanks for your opinion. It doesn’t affect mine.
At the beginning of this conversation, I felt considerable empathy towards you. Every time you reply I feel it less. Maybe try imagining the lives of people who end up under the American boot, people outside your country are also human beings.
I do. That’s why I fight against the evils my country inflicts on the world.
You literally repeatedly stated how proud you are to have been part of the system that inflicted those evils
You don’t seem to have any capacity for shame
“I’m not ashamed of being from a country that constantly starts wars by invading other nations and committing genocide directly or by proxy”
So the complaint is that I was a soldier. Keep up.
No the complaint is that you were a soldier in a fascist genocidal army and are proud of it, plus not being ashamed of the fact your country is a ravenous genocidal warmongerer.
So you just hate America. Cool, bro.
Yeah I hate white supremacy, capitalism and genocide. You clearly don’t.
Wrong on all counts.
Yes.
Diplomacy is when you force Haiti to lower its minimum wage so your monied class can get even richer
Fought against how we treat Haiti.
You fought as a soldier against your own government?
Like with guns? No. I fought in ways that aren’t going to get me dismissed as a loony because those are losing strategies.
Let’s hear these winning strategies then.
Let know if you figure it out, mate.
Your winning strategies won so hard that trump is president and your government shut down.
I’m one person. If being one soldier in an army is power, so is being one vote in a country. If my vote didn’t change anything, neither did my soldering.
Real “my girlfriend lives in Canada” ass answer
So, you didn’t fight against it. You just quietly disapproved and then went back to serving the machine that was doing it