Anyone else getting these donation ads? Was it just shoved onto an update by the Lemmy devs, or is this coming from the instance admins? It doesn’t seem to show on clean browser sessions to lemmy.ca

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      but it’s still not readily accessible

      Now show the part where you had to scroll down the whole feed to get to it instead of it being on the sidebar. This is what dark patterns in GUI design are criticized for. I suspect that the devs have the same attitude as yours, it’s tacked on somewhere so it has already been handled. That’s the point, it’s not a priority.

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        With that logic the /instances page on Lemmy is also hidden as a dark pattern to prevent people from looking up an instance’s federation list

        There is no instance sidebar on Piefed on the homepage, if someone wants to see the instance stats that person would have to go to the “About” page that is also at the bottom. That’s not a dark pattern, just a design decision.

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          Not really, why do you think whataboutism is a valid form of argument? Dark patterns are essentially bad design decisions. If you can say the same about how Lemmy handles it instances page, then one bad design decision doesn’t cancel out another, it can be improved as well.

          Like Mbin. Which is supposed to be the context of this subthread.

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            Mbin also only links to the federation page at the very bottom of the homepage, does this mean that Mbin uses a dark pattern to prevent users from accessing that page?

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              Outright lying doesn’t really befit you. It is at a bottom of a sidebar, which is well above the bottom of the page even when it isn’t loaded in a separate frame. And again, whataboutism. If it can be criticized, maybe it should be brought up, but to me, the sidebar is an acceptable compromise.

              You seem to have a beef with anything that does not prop up piefed honestly. You “agree to disagree” that just because something doesn’t have all of that could facilitate X it can’t be better at X, and you seem to be running towards “catch-ya” whataboutism rather than just being able to consider whether even though something isn’t ideal, it might be better and more focused than something else. Are you personally involved in the piefed project? It’s just odd for someone to seem that invested into dismissing any other preference over it. I personally don’t use it as much because I prefer the topics platforms like Lemmy headline, but that isn’t going to stop me from promoting Mbin specially where its absence as an alternative has been noted. Not sure why someone would be a proponent of the Fediverse and hostile against more alternatives.

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                Edit regarding the first sentence: on mobile, the link is at the very bottom of a page that replaces the sidebar . That’s how I looked it up yesterday, you can even argue that having the sidebar requiring an extra click on mobile is increasing the chance of mobile users never seeing it, while having it at the bottom of the homepage makes it more visible.

                Mbin has been there for much longer than Piefed, but never managed to attract a lot of users. As of now,

                Only based on numbers, more people prefer Piefed rather than Mbin.

                One of the main reason is probably Piefed’s development speed compared to both Lemmy and Mbin, and unique features (e.g. comments consolidation, keyword filter, actual instance blocking, etc.)

                You seem to have a beef with anything that does not prop up piefed honestly.

                And you have a beef against piefed, as shown several times in this thread.