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    I love having to individually download all 50 parts to a game and write my own install script (the GOG experience on Linux).

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    Bro, I’ve got like 25 hours in the Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster, on my Steam Deck and laptop.

    Yesterday, an update caused the game to launch with a black screen. So I tried a few different Proton versions, before I start getting a new error.

    I take a look at the discussion board for the game on Steam… Fucking Denuvo considers each version of Proton to be a separate “activation” and it will only allow five BEFORE LOCKING YOU OUT OF THE GAME FOR 24 HOURS.

    I have never really given a shit about Denuvo before, but this is so fucking infuriating. I paid for this game. I’ve already played 25 hours of this game. Now I can’t fucking play it?

    Unbelievable. Denuvo is fucking trash, and I guess now I’m one of those people who avoids it.

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      Thanks for the heads up, was going to get that for my wife to try. I’ll just spin up the ISO instead.

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        The game itself is outstanding (but I may be biased since the original is one of my favorite games of all time)

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      I guess you were testing with multiple versions of Proton to see which one works the best? Otherwise, doesn’t make sense to have changed 5 versions in 25 hours.

      If you were testing as such, the game publishers should be paying you for doing their job of quality testing.

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          Maybe they did and didn’t like that I used the technically incorrect term “quality testing”, instead of “performance testing”, which would be appropriate for this case.

          Or maybe they just didn’t like me saying that the one benefitting from said testing should be paying equivalent value to the one putting in the work.

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      At least you’re warned about the bullshit requirements for a particular game.

      Reminds me of what fdroid and aurora-store do, warning the users of potential “disgusting” features. That’s respect for its users

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          According to EA

          Requiring Secure Boot provides us with features that we can leverage against cheats that attempt to infiltrate during the Windows boot process. It also lets the Battlefield Positive Play team use its own features and related dependent security features like TPM to combat other forms of cheating, the most relevant of which include:

          • Kernel-Level Cheats and Rootkits
          • Memory Manipulation and Injection
          • Spoofing and Hardware ID Manipulation
          • Virtual Machines and Emulation
          • Tampering with Anti-Cheat Systems

          It feels very anti-linux, and I don’t like it, but with a good number of hours in BF6 so far, I have yet to run into an obvious cheater so maybe it works.

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            The problem isn’t even software running on the host machine anymore. Cheaters have long since moved to using a different machine running ocr software and handling input, then it just sends mouse and keyboard inputs based on what it sees. It’s all of the advantage of esp hacks and aimbots of yore, all while being 100% undetectable as all the game sees is generic peripherals and no code other than legit code running on the main machine.

            Yeah, losing the ability to run games in a VM adds a bit of complexity to the setup, but you can still plug a capture card into a raspberry pi and let it do the aiming/firing and just look like an l33t gam3r in the stats.

            None of this even touches on DMA hacks that read host memory over a bus like PCIe, but that’s getting into some complexity far and above the average cheating kid. Unfortunately plugging in a couple cables and flashing an SD card is pretty trivial for someone wanting to get more headshots.

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      We always knew that battlefield would be like that. It’s an EA product after all.

      I’m genuinely amazed it doesn’t have day one microtransactions, maybe that’s going later.

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          Do you think Dice have something on an EA CEO, or maybe they think this won’t do well after 2048 or whatever it was called.

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      They even game me a refund after I bought KOTOR 1 without realising it was an EA game, saying I wanted to get a refund because I was boycotting EA.

      I did comply with the less than an hour playtime for refunds, so they might have given it regardless, but it’s nice to know they accept refunds labelled as boycotts.

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    I own ~670 games on GOG and lease 292 on Steam.

    I’ve played maybe five of my GOG games to completion. I’m a gamer, dammit!

  • It sounds like gog is pretty great, with their DRM free software.

    I’m generally indifferent towards steam but I’m under the impression that they’ve contributed a lot to the recent developments in Linux gaming compatibility, and this has removed a pretty big hurdle for people who want to move away from windows, and I just think that’s swell.

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      They could try to offer a proper Linux Galaxy client, though. Especially since CP2077 locks some minor things behind being launched from Galaxy.

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        There will likely never be an official GOG Galaxy client for Linux, judging by the company’s utter disregard for Linux users. It was the most requested position on their community wish list, and they just removed it saying they have no plans on adding Linux support.

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          Keep in mind Heroic is completely third-party and lacks official support. So if a game you paid for stops working on your Linux system - you’ll receive no support and no refund.

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          That’s what I use but save syncing is still in beta and the absence of the (admittedly minor) Galaxy-exclusive stuff in CP2077 kinda irks me.

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            i rarely use it, so i am not familiar with the lack of festures.

            i just wanted to throw the name out as it wasn’t mentioned yet

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          It’s a few cosmetics and some “pre-order” style weapons that are references to Witcher. Nothing substantial. There have been mods to unlock them without Galaxy since forever, and despite all the improvements, CP2077 still benefits greatly from some mods. You’re really shooting yourself in the foot playing vanilla.

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          It’s pretty minor (stuff like a t-shirt with the Galaxy logo on it) but it’s kind of annoying that it’s locked.

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        Well that sounds like a problem for Cyberpunk players, who I have no respect for

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          I’m playing Cyberpunk 2077 now for the first time and having a great time. Sincere question: why don’t you have respect for players?

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            CDPR’s business decisions around the game exploited their employees and socially conscious consumers. I don’t like white/green/pinkwashing and don’t like when people give money to companies that do it

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              A fair point, although I wasn’t aware of much of it when I bought the game. I still play it because, well, the money’s already spent.

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              Thanks. Finished doing research and reading more into this. As I understand it, CD Projekt Red (developer) promised no crunch time to employees, and then implemented it anyway for a period right before launch. Then did some mass layoffs after Cyberpunk launched while they struggled to right the ship and get the game in a stable state.

              Never knew about this history which is sad, but I only grabbed the game since it was on sale a few weeks ago.

              I do see some good happening there now. CD Projekt Red committed to no crunch time during the development of Phantom Liberty and offered it only as voluntary for employees, which was true and they met that commitment. They also stabilised the game. And finally the employees successfully unionised after the 2023 layoffs.

              Small light at the end of the tunnel, but shameful practices with crunch time and abusing employees. No way in hell would I ever work 100 hours in a week for my job, severely and recklessly sacrificing my health and safety, even if it is “my dream job”. Companies need to delay their games by a few weeks rather than crunch their employees.

              https://www.polygon.com/23909710/cd-projekt-red-union-layoffs/

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                They also said the game art with the massive gock was criticising corporations that fetishise trans bodies, and then they gave honorable mention in their cosplay contest to a cis woman who stuck a glowstick down her pants. CDPR is the corporation fetishising trans bodies

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      It’s getting rare to own anything. Everything is just a temporary license or subscription or even if you own the thing it’s dongled to the vendor and when the vendor is in a bad mood or goes bankrupt your thing can’t be used any more…

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        I’m far too old to play the “everything is rented” game. I refuse to participate and I’m stunned anyone else does.

        OTOH, I brought up how Trump/Project-2025 is dismantling NOAA on neighborhood.com, rather crucial to us on the Gulf Coast, and had this (heavily paraphrased) discussion with Karen:

        “I PAY for my weather app! Don’t care if you can’t!”

        “Uh, where do you think that app gets it’s data?”

        “Not arguing with an idiot!”

        And that was the day I learned that people pay monthly fees for free data. (I heartily recommend Weawow. Free, does everything I want except tide tables.)

        I also learned that Project 2025 is a conspiracy theory and I’m an idiot for believing in it. Live and learn!

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          Privacy vibe check passed

          Weawow iOS privacy report card (no data collected)

          :D surely:

          Weawow is a free (and ad-free) weather app enhanced by beautiful weather-related photos taken by photographers around the world. The photos reflect the current weather at your location, … so you can decide whether you’ll need your umbrella or your sunglasses when you go out. The Weawow marketplace also allows you to promote and sell your beautiful photos to people around the world … . With many data sources …, you’ll be able to judge upcoming weather conditions for yourself. You free from the stress of annoying advertisements, there are no tracking mechanisms to monitor your actions. Through beautiful weather photos that transcend borders, people can forget about conflict, and we contribute to world peace. When people see a photo of a golden sunset sinking over the horizon, they will surely feel calm and gentle. I declare that through Weawow, I will contribute to the development of human civilization and world peace. The Weawow is sustained by user donations. If you like the Weawow and want to support the Weawow project, please donate to us. Of course, this is not mandatory, so please feel free to use the app.

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          It’s still the modern media format. They sell them beside checkout lines! Piracy aside, there really isn’t any other way to own your media, at present. Everything else is a rescindable contract. How do you propose people own their media? Are stores selling flash drives of movies now, and I haven’t noticed?

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        I don’t even own a player, for either format. Got 800 movies and years of TV shows on a pair of mirrored drives, backed to Google Drive. :)

        20-years ago my ex-wife was talking to another women in line at Walmart, “Me too! We get all our movies from aXXo! He’s the best.”

        And somehow people forgot they could steal media with impunity. :(

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    I wish games would host their own downloads like Factorio. Managing keys and such is probably not worth it since they can use Steam, GOG, or even Itch, buts it’s just so nice to be able to download stuff without a middle man.

    I’m just glad I only play 2 games instead of the hundreds I’m reading about in these comments. I didn’t even know that was a thing people did!

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      I don’t play hundreds, but I do play dozens, and yeah, being able to just set 5 or so to download in the background when I’m running low is nice. I mostly play through single player games and uninstall when I’m done.

      That said, I also really like how Factorio did it. I bought it directly from them way back in 2012 or something, then they gave me a Steam key, and I can still play the game today with all the updates more than 10 years later. They only made one DLC in the meantime, and that’s basically a new game, so I’m totally happy with that.

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      Factorio devs are goated for their no-bullshit, high-quality product. I make damn sure I have a recent copy secured on my server, just in case. Inspirational humans like this keep me from the doldrums.

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        You might wanna reconsider that gushing praise. The Factorio dev is a screaming bigot with a long history of sexism, homophobia, and racism. And, when this is mentioned, complaining about “cancel culture”.

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    I would love to buy all my games from gog, but they lack steam’s regional pricing in my region, so most games are 4x the price on gog.

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    No regional pricing though. GOG is outrageously expensive in my country compared to steam.

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      Regional pricing is usually set up by the developer. Contact the developer of your favourite games and they may consider regional pricing, provided GoG allows them.

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        The site itself only accepts a limited amount of currencies, it’s even missing a few of the worlds most major ones. I think it’s most likely a limitation on GoGs side.

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      That’s surprising. I wonder of it’s actually not supported, or if companies just don’t bother to set it up? Seems weird they would do it on one platform and not the other though.

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    GOG does have its issues and controversies, but it’s still the only online gaming store with conditions I find acceptable. If the game is not available DRM Free, I don’t need to play it.

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    If only they gave a shit about their users enough to respect their requests for official Linux support. Various forms of this made 3 of the top 5 requests on their community wish list. Which they casually deleted and told people to use wine/proton.

    This is not a consumer-friendly company. It just so happens that their consumer-oriented decisions led to profits. The moment this is not the case, they immediately change course every time. Same might be true for Valve, but at the very least we can clearly observe them sacrificing extra profits for a tiny minority of Linux users.

    GOG is still mostly fine for Windows builds of games. You can support the devs and get DRM-free copies to store indefinitely. However, we shouldn’t blindly praise them and ignore the obvious bullshit they take part in.

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      I imagine that we Linux users are a very small share of their users. I don’t see anything malicious in it.

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        I disagree. It depends how you define ‘malicious’, but in any case I strongly condemn this practice.

        CDPR is perfectly happy to pretend they’re consumer-friendly whenever it requires no actual work and brings profits. But the moment they have to spend a cent on changes to actually fulfill their users’ wishes (which they themselves published a wish list for, mind you) - it gets absolutely shit on and the users are told to stop bothering them.

        This is nothing but a clear display of what kind of company this is. People keep praising them for doing so much for the users. Meanwhile Valve has been losing money for years, just to help a handful of Linux gamers. No corporation is your friend, but if you really want to go with the ‘least evil’ option - just buy the game on Steam and then pirate it for indefinite storage.

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          I get your frustration, but Valve effectively prints money. They don’t need to care that Linux makes up less than 3% of all users, and they aren’t supporting it purely out of the goodness of their heart either, as they have direct incentive to do so through improving the Steam Deck.

          Valve isn’t spending money or time tracking down rights holders of games that can’t legally be bought anymore. For all the good Valve does with Linux and Proton, there are games still being sold on Steam that simply do not work on modern machines. Steam leaves fixing that up to the devs.

          We’re also just going to ignore Valve’s massive hand in popularizing the microtransaction laden lootbox hell? Team Fortress 2 has been an absolute money printer for them, and they’ve only brought that forward into all their other multiplayer games since, while doing nothing to curb all the gambling shit that has cropped up around things like CSGO skins. Or how about early access, never release “scams”?

          I’m not convinced that any of that make Valve evil, but my point is that both of these companies aren’t your friends.

          GOG isn’t just tossing stuff up on their storefront like Valve, they actively sort out how to get these games working on modern hardware and package it up in a way that is seamless for the average user. Unfortunately the average user is on Windows, and they don’t have the microtransaction mountains of money to burn pursuing Linux right now. That sucks.

          As far as deleting the wishlist items? They answered it already.

          Most importantly, a public wishlist isn’t a contract, and a company giving an answer you don’t like doesn’t make them evil.

          I’m not happy about it, but this good vs evil, “this just shows the kind of company they are” shit is taking things pretty damn far.

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      Same might be true for Valve, but at the very least we can clearly observe them sacrificing extra profits for a tiny minority of Linux users.

      Considering the Steam Deck exists, which necessitates Linux support, I’m fairly certain Valve is actively making profit from Linux support.

      Which is a perfectly fine thing to do, and I really like it. But it’s not exactly altruism that’s driving their investments

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    Half or more of all the games Amazon gives away through Prime are actually just GOG keys. If you already have Prime for some reason or another, you should be redeeming those free GOG keys.

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      I wondered why some guy on my Discord kept giving out tons of free GOG keys. Guess it’s probably that?

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      This.

      I hate Amazon, but I’m subscribed to Prime and I’m getting a lot of free GOG keys.

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        They have been doing it, quietly, for years and they have given away amazing titles too.

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          Is it only available in US? Im in Germany and it seems that it is not available for me.

          Edit: Just checked. Couldn’t login though phone due to Amazon always willing to change location. But on PC worked out. Got Fallout New Vegas ultimate edition, xcom 2 and and civil III and IV for free. There were also some free games there but I’ll pass on these.

          THAT SHIT IS EPIC! Thank this community to showing me these. Been Prime user for a long time and havent reedemed a single game until today :@