• Beesbeesbees@lemmy.world
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    I definitely want pockets. I’ve had a lot of luck with dresses and baggy work pants. The baggy jeans style has also made pockets easier to find. I feel like having to outsource my storage to a bag I carry is a liability.

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    Polar bears? … I seem to remember something about bears being preferred over men.

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          Yes the marauder in all its inceptions is a wonderful machine. I’m planning an all marauder lance for my current playthrough of BTA3062. Marauder II, Nightstar, Marauder IIC, and a MAD-5M (just for nostalgia). All with clan tech

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    Women often have pocketses. It’s considered better form/preference to show off their ass better without using them.

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      I think every statement I’ve ever heard from women about pockets is that women’s clothes often don’t have and require more pockets, but that might be survivorship bias where the ones who dont care are silent.

      I personally have a great ass but I wouldn’t choose to wear pants without pockets.

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    I remember reading a comment saying that women don’t actually want pockets. The manufacturers and retailers have data on this.

    What’s happening is the women who do want them are in online bubbles that give them the impression that most women want pockets.

    It’s like how most gamers don’t give a shit about DRM, so those of us who know better are stuck with it anyway.

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      My SIL doesn’t want pockets, but she is wealthy and into style. I think some of the women who don’t want pockets are into style and/or looking wealthy enough to not need pockets.

      Women who are pragmatic want pockets.

      I’ve been ripping open pockets and sewing more fabric onto them making them big.

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        I would wager that the companies that stand to gain or lose money has this data. Or you have the opportunity of a lifetime to start a company that would cater to a black hole of demand. I know what i’m betting on.

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          Those companies also make handbags, which are substantially more profitable than pants with pockets as long as those companies keep handbags in fashion

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          Is the hypothesis that companies have their customers’ best interests in mind? /shrug I’m just going to base my worldview on the only data I could find rather than “I remember reading a comment.” At least until I run across new data.

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            Not at all. They have their own interests in mind. It isn’t in their interest to make shit that wont sell 🤷

            That data would be business critical for them so you can bet your fucking ass they have something like it.

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              Planned obsolescence, subscription degradation, ad creep, landfills full of cheap crap… It’s in their interests to sell the least useful thing for the highest price. If it costs more to put in pockets, they’ll spend a surprising amount of money trying to convince people they don’t want pockets. Or better yet, just buy up every competitor until there are only a few players and decide amongst yourselves not to make better stuff. I’m not saying that’s what happened, necessarily, it’s just not a foregone conclusion that pockets are scarce because demand is scarce.

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                If it costs more to put in pockets, they’ll spend a surprising amount of money trying to convince people they don’t want pockets.

                Tin foil engaged.

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                  Public perception can function like any other externality, meaning you can offload costs onto it. This is regularly done, but it’d be foolish to claim that’s the case here without more information. As it would be foolish to assume the hand of the market is gently guiding us to a better world.

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      I became aware of this once in the office where a woman brought up the fact that guys were lucky to have functional pockets. Most pockets on womans clothing are either fake or are sewn shut and for looks.

      I asked why? And she explained it ruins the “Pants Chi”. I guess it gets in the way of showing off the figure somehow.

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      So you’ve got a very vocal market calling out their demand for a product that is more or less trivial to manufacture, and yet not a single entrepreneur has successfully brought the product to market. Why would that be?

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        There are retailers who have pockets in women‘s clothing by default but it does have some marginal cost. In a world of fast fashion, if they can get away with it, they will.

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        A quick search confirms that women’s clothing with pockets does in fact exist, so the niche is getting served.

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          It takes significantly more time in shopping. Online, the normal look at 25 items to find one that matches my style preferences and is available in my size, then add clicking through all the product detail tabs to try to figure out if it has pockets, 80% of them don’t, and of the ones that do it’s mostly hope that they aren’t poorly designed where everything falls out of them upon sitting down.

          I appreciate that, with a multiple of the shopping time investment required by men or women who don’t value pockets, and some fallout in unusable pockets, women’s clothing with pockets is available. But I sure wish it was more available.

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      the lack of pockets is symbolic of sexism… it’s not about packing them full of things.

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    One of classmates always had deep pockets. One time I joked how deep and she pulled out an umbrella. I wished I asked the brand. I was too confused from what seemed like some sort of Vegas illusion.

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      Hell yes, I’m all for it. It’s insanity that we don’t have wage parity at this point

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    For too long, feminists have focused on unimportant issues like voting rights, equal pay, and the ability to hold credit cards without a male cosigner. This is the only demand that truly matters for gender equality. If women get pockets, then the rest will follow.

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      I was wondering why my GF (now wife) often gave me stuff like keys to carry when she didn’t have her purse with me, since her pants seemed to have pockets. However, they were actually fake pockets. Just a nice looking design but they couldn’t actually be opened

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        If you own a sewing machine I suggest if any of those clothes have mini pockets ripping the seams and adding fabric to make a big pocket. Help her take back her power!

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        It’s a real conspiracy, I’m telling you. They’re giving women the little things so that they won’t ask for pockets.

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          Exactly and as you can see from my example, she immediately lost her independence and needed me to carry things. I had the pockets.

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            This is a big reason that young women feel like they have a lot of pressure to get married to a wealthier man that has the resources to have pockets, or if they can’t find one, settle for one that has at least a decent hoodie. I feel like a lot of them wouldn’t bother if they didn’t have to rely on the pockets of men.

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        Women will also complain how stuffed pockets ruin the look of clothes with unsightly bumps and they usually have clothes that are tighter around the body compared to men’s clothes. The compromise for the producer was making fake pockets and hope somebody will invent a pocket of holding.

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          My partner was doing this, sure the jeans don’t have pockets but your coat has pockets. But you was just carrying her phone around in her hand all day, just asking for it to be snatched kind of gives me anxiety. All of this because she said she didn’t like having things in her pockets, because it made her feel unbalanced.

          She seems so unused to pockets that she can’t interact with them when she does have the option.

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            Sometimes when one has been deprived of freedom for a long time, it may feel unnatural to use it.

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    Women’s cargo pants at military surplus stores are a thing

    I had a partner who wore these and I admired that she bucked the trend of tight clothing