• FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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    False dichotomy.

    People using AI to cure cancer are not the people implementing weird chatbots. Doing one has zero effect on the other.

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      That’s not what it’s saying though. It’s making the very reasonable point that if you (the leader of an AI company) think you’re about to have an AGI that can do sci-fi AGI things, then why the hell would you be developing chatbots, which are significantly less advanced technology, only for your chatbot to be immediately superseded by your AGI?

      If you’re about to get access to the world’s largest diamond mine you’re not going to spend the next few months messing around with get rich quick schemes.

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      Pretty sure this is a direct dig against Sam Altman specifically who is making huge claims despite no evidence that they’re making progress on AGI.

      The people actually using AI to cure cancer were probably doing it before OpenAI (remember when we called it Machine Learning?) and haven’t been going to the media and Musking the completion date

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      sam altman and openai just announced they are allowing erotica for “verified users”

      its only a matter of time before they allow full blown pornographic content, the only thing is that you have to verify your ID. so, openai and the “gubment” will know all the depraved shit you will ask for, and i guarantee it will be used against you or others at some point.

      itll either become extremely addictive for the isolated who want the HER experience, or it will be used to undermine political discidents and anti fascist users.

      despite what people think, openai does in fact hand over data to the authorities (immediate government representatives) and that information is saved and flagged if they deem it necessary.

      basically if you say anything to chagpt, you can assume at some point it will be shared with law enforcement/government/government adjacent surveillance corporations like palantir.

      they used to say they would refuse to make this type of content, knowing full well the implications of what might happen if they did. now due to “public demand” they are folding.

      my advice, get a dumb phone, a digital camera, and a laptop to still have access to the internet and tools. reduce your physical ability to access the internet so readily. its saturated with AI, deep fakes, agents, and astroturfing bots that want you plugged in 100% of the time so they can further your addictions, manipulate you, and extract as much data from you as possible.

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        basically if you say anything to chagpt, you can assume at some point it will be shared with law enforcement/government/government adjacent surveillance corporations like palantir.

        That’s why I have all my private with deepseek.

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        I’m an adult, there’s no reason I can’t have the bot talk dirty to me. That’s a lot of text for essentially saying you wish the censorship stayed.

        Surveillance state and data extraction are real issues that need to be tackled at the root (which isn’t AI).

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          i feel like you really need to take the time to research the implications of AI and surveillance more. specifically how the US and virtually every government and tech corporation on the planet is intending/already using them, together.

          AI exists because of illegal/unconsentual data extraction, its almost entirely built on it, and theres no way that will likely ever stop. you can attempt to regulate it, but the US governement deregulated it on purpose for a bribe and the promise of more control.

          it wont happen while money and power still exist at the end of the rainbow.

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            This is precisely why I’m saying AI and our surveillance state are completely different issues.

            Yes the surveillance state is really bad and we need comprehensive laws that protect our personal data.

            That being said, what the copyright industry is desperately clinging to has nothing to do with that. Your second paragraph has nothing to do with the first. So I don’t agree with both, I only agree with the first, which is my main point, about how they are seperate issues.

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          That is absolutely not what he is saying. He is saying that governments across the world are starting to crack down on anything they deem unsocial behavior, and the companies that provide you with those services are 100% willing to sell you out when asked to.

          I should be allowed to buy crack cocaine or a prostitute since it is no one’s business what i do in my free time. Unfortunately Uncle Sam disagrees, so it’s in my best interest to not pay for those services with a credit card that can be traced right back to me.

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      Yes, AI already helps in oncology research and has for years and years, probably decades.

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      No, the thought here is that they’re going to hit the holy Grail

      A super intelligent being would be able to cure cancer from first principles, just like anything else. It would understand the laws of reality so well it would be like magic, coming up with wonders we might never understand

      That’s the idea anyways. A digital deity

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      You’re getting downvoted because of how you put it. Most people do not understand the difference between AI used for research (like protein sequencing) and LLMs.

      Also, the people making LLMs are not making protein sequencers.

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        No, OP is about how OpenAI said they were releasing a chatbot with PhD level intelligence about half a year ago (or was it a year ago?) and now they are saying that they’ll make horny chats for verified adults (i.e. paying customers only).

        What happened to the PhD level intelligence Sam?! Where is it?

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        I agree, for most people ‘AI’ is ChatGPT and their perception of the success of AI is based on social media vibes and karma farming hot takes, not a critical academic examination of the state of the field.

        I’m not remotely worried about the opinions of random Internet people, many of which are literally children just dogpiling on a negative comment.

        Reasonable people understand my point and I don’t care enough about the opinions of idiots to couch my language for their benefit.

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      Ah I see the misunderstanding. Government pivoting is the problem.

      NIH blood cancer research was defunded few months ago while around same time government announced they will be building 500-billion datacenters for LLMs.

      “If LLM becomes AGI we won’t need the image-recognition linear algebra knowledge anymore, obviously.”

      Researchers are still the good and appreciated no matter what annoying company is deploying their work.