• boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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      2 days ago

      I like cars. Love driving. I still think cities should be walkable and have good public transit. In fact I prefer driving outside big cities.

      Fuckcars has always been “fuck car dependence” mostly.

      • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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        1 day ago

        Why do we need both, then? Cars are always going to come at the detriment of other forms of transportation. Cars have externalities that no other form has; every time you drive a km, you kill a fractional human being. How do you do the math on that and decide you liking cars is more important than the significant fraction of a human being that you kill? It’s like alcohol; there’s no good amount, but the addicts are going to insist otherwise on the flimsiest of evidence.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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          20 hours ago

          Because sometimes I like getting there in one hour instead of 4 by train because my route isn’t common enough to build a railroad for, so I’d have to take two trains. This goes for more than one place I sometimes need to get to. Keep in mind, I live in a properly small town currently.

          You also kill a fractional human being every time you take the bus or train, the fraction is just significantly smaller. But it’s there.

    • sunflowercowboy@feddit.org
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      2 days ago

      You can think cars are problem while acknowledging aspects they are necessary in. Off road on a bike is ludicrously difficult, impossible on trains or busses, and dangerous at times on foot.

      Acknowledging it as the problem is a fallacy, acknowledging as a tool is important. You use the right tool for the job, not the most convenient. The issue is that we live in a society that sees vice grips as good enough for the job, and anything as a hammer. Using the right tool is important but laziness is easiest.