• rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml
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    16 days ago

    Thoughts on this ?

    — Important note on the hostages:

    Some people keep saying that Hamas should not release all the Israeli hostages because it’s their ‘last leverage’ against Israel.

    What good has this ‘leverage’ done for Gaza in the past few months? Has Israel held back from committing genocide and massacring the Palestinians? No. Not at all.

    In fact, the hostages are currently only being used as an excuse for Israel to keep bombing Gaza and commit further massacres in the name of ‘bringing home the hostages’. They have outlived their usefulness for a long time.

    If Hamas releases the hostages and Israel still continues the genocide, then the situation won’t be ‘worse’ than before, because the genocide is already happening right now. The situation will be the same as it is now.

    The only thing that will be different, is that it will show the world that it was never about the hostages in the first place.

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      We will find out in the coming days or weeks if the hostages were of any value. It is clear that israel did not give a shit about them apart from those inconsequential protests by the taken’s kin. Once the hostages are returned, we can gauge israel’s actions to see whether keeping the hostages around served a purpose.

      In fact, the hostages are currently only being used as an excuse for Israel to keep bombing Gaza

      This is total bs. They would have done what they did either way.

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          Public discourse was calling Palestinians violent terrorists long before October 7th. There is no value in trying to win the hearts and minds of residents of israel’s patron states.

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            Public discourse was calling Palestinians violent terrorists long before October 7th.

            This is true. The pro-Zionist media was always going to find ways to justify the genocide one way or another.

            There is no value in trying to win the hearts and minds of residents of israel’s patron states.

            This I don’t agree with. Pro-Palestine protests and direct action have played a role in pressuring Western governments.

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              Sure but don’t keep or release hostages for optics for the West. Do it if it is the strategically and morally the right thing to do. I see the anti-war movements as a product of Palestine just being in the right. It was the same in Vietnam where the western anti-war movement was significant but the war came to a halt only when the Vietnamese made continuing the war untenable with their tremendous sacrifice.