Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stated that Russia is importing petrol, calling it the rightful result of the work of the Security Service, the Armed Forces, intelligence and Ukrainian weapons manufacturers.
Quote: "Today, there were also reports on our entirely justified strikes against Russian targets – against their logistics and fuel infrastructure. I am grateful to our warriors for their precision. Russia chooses war, Russia destroys our people’s lives, and must be held accountable – our long-range capabilities will increase.
Ukraine is what the Allies have been in World War 2-- a really fucking competent leadership. It doesn’t matter if the opponent has a bigger stick if he’s too stupid to use it and keep missing the swings. That’s what Russia is. So much for “corrupt Ukraine”. No country is void of corruption, but if Ukraine is as corrupt as Russian propaganda insists they are, they wouldn’t have been able to survive this long and embarrass Russia. Speaking of which, it’s funny I don’t see much Russian bots try to smear Ukraine anymore (maybe Putin is instead focusing on propagandising the Russians). Since Kursk and the deep drone strike campaigns in Russia, it is clear that Russia is losing the propaganda war.
Maybe Ukraine couldn’t retake the areas occupied by Russia, but they could deliver a Pyrrhic blow to Kremlin. Russian international prestige already diminished as soon as they invaded.
This is inaccurate on two fronts.
Exception’s this is accurate on all fronts. Compare that to the Axis, who barely coordinated. Hell, Mussolini didn’t even tell Hitler he was going to invade Greece. When that didn’t work out, Hitler had to bail him out. That pushed the German invasion of the Soviet Union by one or two months. Who knows, maybe those two months could have allowed Germany to arrive in Moscow earlier and avoid the freezing winter, and history as we know it may have turned differently. Don’t even get me started the wastefulness of the Holocaust (the brain drain and potential manpower wasted), which Mussolini himself stated long before that the Nazi’s racial obsession is wasteful. This is why I want to smash the myth of efficiency of Nazi war machine, because they never were.
Also read up on Truman committee, who monitored corruption and wastefulness during the war period. They saved about $15 billion.
Ukraine was probably close to as corrupt as the Russians have never stopped bleating, but:
They have delivered a pyrrhic victory.
Russia thought they could take Kyiv (Ukraine?) on 3 days.
The fact that Ukraine has resisted so hard, have redefined the modern battlefield, have conducted huge deep strikes…
Ukraine is winning.
The reason Ukraine may not be “winning” is because the Russian war machine is huge. Like really really big.
The reason that Ukraine is “winning” is because the Russian war machine is outdated and corrupt.
The western opinion of Russia has been devastated. Russia tested themselves, and failed.
Russia is holding on by their nukes.
Didn’t they lose 30 percent of thier land?
They might if they keep flying drones into NATO airspace.
20%, but most of it was already occupied since 2014 and the ongoing skirmishes in the east
Or maybe Putin decided the bot farmers were needed at the front lines as drone fodder.
I’m just concerned about what happens if things start to go really badly for the Russians. Nothing good can come of a nuclear superpower that feels threatened and backed into a corner, either by the enemy or their own populace.
They were ground to a standstill in Afghanistan too, and the apocalypse failed to materialize.
Some geriatic leaders were shown to be incompetent, so they were replaced by other elderly drunks.
The USA does business with Vietnam but not Cuba. Strategically the countries are not the same.
This is an interesting point, but what are you saying? Sorry, I’m a bit dense.
Afghanistan was strategically as important to the USSR as Vietnam was to the USA. So going nuclear was not worth it.
For no missiles on Cuba, the US risked everything, and they still embargo Cuba for leaving their fold.
Ukraine is even more important for Russia. So assuming that nothing will happen because nothing happened for the loss in Afghanistan is careless.
I see, thanks for spelling it out for me!
Eh, the people around Putin know that they have better odds of maintaining their lives and fortune when no nukes fly.
competence does not in any way indicate an absence of corruption
One of the symptoms of corruption is diversion of critical resources to private pockets.
Yeah, OK, all systems have some level of corruption, but setting binary thinking aside, in Ukraine, it can’t be of great magnitude or they couldn’t fight.
Cool story
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973
Not sure what they’re on about.
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“Uhhhh I don’t care”
Your baseless speculation does not in any way constitute a counter-argument, it is pure wishful thinking to avoid confronting the very real possibility that the US is about to lose another proxy war
Oh that wasn’t me, I just noticed you chickening out of addressing their valid counter-argument.
Like I said, not a counter-argument, wishful thinking, cope
I coped by summarizing for anyone else skimming the discussion