Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stated that Russia is importing petrol, calling it the rightful result of the work of the Security Service, the Armed Forces, intelligence and Ukrainian weapons manufacturers.
Quote: "Today, there were also reports on our entirely justified strikes against Russian targets – against their logistics and fuel infrastructure. I am grateful to our warriors for their precision. Russia chooses war, Russia destroys our people’s lives, and must be held accountable – our long-range capabilities will increase.
I find it really “eye opening” to watch a “small” country like Ukraine, just demolish a huge behemoth almost all on their own. Yes they got support from USA, that helped them survive a lot of the first invasion wave, where russia wasn’t prepared for the resistance they were getting do to bad serveilance reportings, of the russian KGP. But after a lot of the help they are getting from their allies, they have been innovating and forcing themselves out of this.
This is the modern version of David and Goliath. Ukraine has revolutionized modern warfare completely.
It seems to be similar to the Vietnam War (besides the distances ofc). The US lost that because none of the soldiers actually cared about going to fight in Vietnam, nobody cared about winning. It might be a similar story with Russia. What stakes do the Russian people face if they lose? What does Ukraine have to lose?
That was an unwinnable war. China supported North Vietnam, with which it shared a long border. The US was fighting thousands of miles from its borders, with all the logistical problems that entailed, and was not willing or able to engage China directly in the fighting-- they had recently tried that in the Korean war and barely managed to achieve a stalemate at a high cost in lives. The South Vietnamese government was a former French colonial puppet regime that was rotten to the core, the South Vietnamese soldiers knew that and had no desire to die for those parasites or for the US’s obscure objectives. The North Vietnamese soldiers had to either fight and win or be massacred by either the US or their own government. So they cared about winning, since for them it was an existential imperative. American draftees had more options than that.
But I agree that your analysis that the cost of failure to the sides in that war was massively asymmetric is indeed also applicable to Russia and Ukraine.
It’s a bit different as Russian indifference is also what made this war be possible in the first place.
I mean, back in '22 Russian opposition mostly had to flee abroad, but broadcasted news of Russian war crimes, commenting that Russian citizens should know the truth.
Now we know they know. It’s just that nobody cares until it affects them personally.
it is not even the first generation of russian opposition that failed at that. They played dumb when Transnistria situation happened, they didn’t gave a shit when russia started a proxy war with Georgia by fueling the separatist movements, they couldn’t be bothered with Karabakh thing, lots of them openly supported military invasion of Ichkeria that tried to secede according to international law only to be laughed at, they played the “it’s very ambiguous” during the August 8 invasion even there was nothing ambiguous. russian opposition was politically irrelevant long before that and their fate as absolutely inadequate play-pretend clownshow was cemented when most of them decided to feign ignorance and sit on the fence over Crimea annexation and then their leaders started speculating over that with sandwich rhetoric which was deeply idiotic and counterproductive.
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Really dude ?? Really ?? Ukraine is running out of men.
Idiot orc! Ukraine doesn’t even have a full draft yet. They are not even recruiting men under 25 years of age. If anyone is “running out of men”, it’s the fucking weak ass ruzzian pigs, who use all the dirty tricks, like tricking foreign international students to the front line, as well as jailed criminals, invalids and elderly. Even 18 year old conscripts, who by ruzzian law, can’t be sent to war, are being coerced into changing their contracts. They are sending wounded men, ON ACTUAL CRUTCHES, into battle. Speaking of ruzzian pigs…how come you aren’t at the front line yet? Are you one of the millions of young ruzzian men who ran away to a foreign country, rather than serve the mighty midget Pootin? You should serve. You’d look great as a pink mist wafting in the morning breeze, Yuri.
I am not Russian, but cool joke bro. https://youtu.be/p1KwWZJFmCU
Also Don’t joke about the war, you death-worshipping degenerate. One question; which country are you from ?
Son’t know where the guy you were denigrating was from, but I’m from Finland and we know Russia well enough to know what animals they are. Alao fuck you for spreading Russian propaganda
Oh so basically, you don’t have any skin in the game; But love forcing other men to die For YOUR COMFORT & that Dehumanization is straight out of the zionist playbook. Good job war-monger.
US-imperialism is the cause of this war, there’s enough evidence for it, just like Israel.
No skin in the game except over 1000km of border and hundreds of years of history with the most malignant war mongering country in the northern hemisphere who are contantly waging war with us, so you can just fuck off with your condescending attitude.
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What did you say ? You can message me. Ever notice they have no credible evidence or reasoning skills.
They’re death-worshipping degenerates.
Demolish how? Russia is still taking ground. We are entering into fourth year of war, and with the exception of Kursk campaign the line is moving only in one direction.
Taking land is the only way to win a war. Outlasting an opponent’s ability/will to fight doesn’t work at all, right?
Remind me: who controls Afghanistan? You know, that small country that didn’t even have a standing army who fought against the most powerful military on the planet for 20 years … after fighting the Soviets for 10.
Probably a fluke though – it’s not like that’s repeatedly happened in wars across history.
True. But also Afghanistan’s climate and terrain make it costly to occupy, and there was no comparable benefit to being there, besides possibly control of the opiate trade. And large-scale mechanized warfare was also horrendously difficult in Afghanistan, but much more possible in Ukraine and vicinity.
So the Russians left because there was nothing worth stealing that would justify the high casualty rate. The US fucked off because there was no reason to be there besides to slap the Taliban around and kill however many Al-Qaida fighters could be found. But the war aims for the US were never well-articulated, and that led to bizarre rules of engagement that could never achieve more than a holding pattern. The US could have stayed and exterminated every single Talib, but that would have almost inevitably spread the conflict to the Taliban’s sponsors, Pakistan, which has nukes (and a far larger popultation than Afghanistan). Not a good state to destablize.
So you’re saying russians will just pack their things and leave?
just to clarify - taking ground with immense personnel and hardware losses over what it is rendered into a literal moonscape with no infrastructure or housings intact. good luck holding onto that.
Good luck taking it back.
Russia hasn’t taken significant ground for years. The front line is stuck, entrenched and static. There might be variations by 10 metres here or there, but it’s basically the same today as 3 years ago.
Look at how the first world war ended. The front was frozen for about three years, then it suddenly came unstuck. What had changed was crumbling alliances on the Axis side, an increasingly difficult problem with fuel supply (hmm, that sounds familiar), and the need for Germany to maintain some level of military strength for internal repression. So what broke things loose was a gradual loss of German resiliency. That could happen to Russia, too, but it depends on international resolve that may or might not be sufficiently strong. In particular, it’s not clear if Trump is more interested in backstabbing Europe to ingratiate himself with Putin, or backstabbing Putin in order to claim credit for a victory that would actually largely be Zelenskyy’s.
Three years ago they were fighting for Maruipol.
Meatwave tactics do tend to gain ground, but the midget Pootin is starting to get desperate for warm bodies to send. Pootin the Tiny is resorting to tricking international students into signing up for the meatgrinder, and there are literal waves of ruzzian orcs attacking WHILE ON CRUTCHES! Ruzzian soldiers are encouraged to shoot their own wounded because ruzzia can’t afford to medically treat them, or pay pensions… Ruzzian weapons are proven crap, and getting crappier, and that’s a foreign market ruzzia will, NEVER get back. What ruzzian navy? ROFLOLOLOL!!! Ruzzia has run out of fuel (LOL) and is now an importer of gasoline, while Ukraine permits it. (Hint: Ukraine will be bombing import facilities and infrastructure very soon). The ruzzian economy is in the toilet and about to be flushed, ruzzian elites are grumbling audibly about midget Pootins failures… The entire next generation of ruzzians has fled overseas, or already been turned into sunflower fertilizer. Ruzzia is Donny 2 Inches “third world shithole country”, in every possible way. Third World Ruzzia should try to give their population actual flushing toilets and indoor plumbing, before they start and lose their next war ROFL. No wonder that every ruzzian woman is trying to find a western husband, because this is yet another destroyed generation of ruzzian men. Only the crippled and unemployable violent drunks are going to remain, to populate future ruzzia. What a genetic disaster, hey?
As opposed to the glorious past, when there were also non-crippled and marginally employable violent drunks.
You’re wasting your time lmao. If they took Kyiv and jailed all the leadership these delusional libs would claim it’s just Russian propaganda and the real victory is just around the corner like it’s an avengers movie.
Evidence is beside the point, all that matters is vibes.
You’re commenting from the fucking “saying Palestine is illegal” instance, pipe down
More .ml propaganda lmao
Palestine isn’t illegal, silly you :3
Isn’t Ukraine second biggest European country after Russia?
I don’t think they meant geographic size. In terms of population they’re around 9th, in terms of GDP more like 25th. They’re not Malta obviously, but they don’t really stack up against the big traditionally heavyweight countries by most metrics.
Ukraine is poor as fuck, it’s really surprising when you look at the numbers.
Not citizen and economy wise.
Ok buddy…
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Russia was considered to be the second most powerful military in the world. They now have suffered over a million casualties and are currently unable to prevent their own oil facilities from exploding on a weekly basis.
And yet they haven’t left. Doesn’t sound like they got “demolished.”
You both are just spouting gung-ho bullshit as virtue signaling for the tribe.
The war can be both devastating for Russia and an ongoing grind.
That itself is not unprecedented. Large militaries have horrifically ground themselves down against smaller, determined foes for literally thousands of years.
They haven’t left yet.
They haven’t “left” because the midget Pootin is not the one doing the dying. Yet.
Putin would appear weak if he walked away. Dictators don’t want to look weak. They would rather run the country into the ground than admit they were wrong.
They have drunk the kool-aid
Amazing replies, they say Ukraine got support from US like it was a few thousand, ignoring all the support during Biden, and from other countries.
What? Like the support North Korea and China have been selling to the midget Pootin? Like the nice cash flow ruzzia is getting from India and other Brics countries, for whatever oil ruzzia can still transport? Like all the Iranian drones and drone technology that ruzzia can’t provide for itself? Like the battalions of (crappy) North Korean slaves that Pootin has welcomed for ruzzian cash. Even America has been helping ruzzia by keeping a leash on Ukraine, selectively providing intelligence information and even turning off their internet at times. America sent some if’s old junk that needed to be decommissioned any way. It probably actually profited America to be able to dispose of that stuff cheaply LOL. Although it is hilarious that old American junk is more that ruzzia can handle ROFL. Too bad for the runt Pootang, but war in modern times, is a multinational affair, and ruzzia is on the Temu side LOL. I though you ruzzian orcs would be too embarrassed to show your vile heads any more, due to all the failure. It most be pure cringe, to be a ruzzian LOL.
Jesus fucking cringe, I hope for your sake you’re being paid for this
How much is Ruzzian intelligence paying you tho?