I love to see the diversity of software increase. Once we clone all the major ones we can start innovating to the point where you have something completely new and bespoke and that will be really exciting
This quote has me reflecting on the diversity of software, especially in the realm of open source social media platforms. It seems like many of them are just clones of popular ones, lacking true innovation. Why is this the case? Are there any open source social media platforms that are genuinely innovative and offer something unique?
Facebook is not at all comparable to Geocities, displays the contents of every thread of a “section”, and then invented Social Media by adding Feeds. Even disregarding the lattes, I don’t see how Mbin is at all comparable.
“invented Social Media” — bwahahahaha. You can’t actually be serious? I was a social media addict since 1989.
No, you’re probably thinking of Social Networks. I’m talking about an algorithmically-filtered homepage of recent updates anywhere, creating your filter bubble.
Your odd capitalized notion of “Social Networks” seems like a typical LLM hallucination, but on the chance that you’re human and came up with it yourself, I suggest starting by reading up on the history of Usenet in enough detail that you understand how Kibo would be relevant to that statement.
That’s not to say that Facebook didn’t do anything novel. Their algorithms for matching up advertisers with their targets are well beyond what we had in the old days.
I capitalize for comparison (to Social Media) and have my humanity doubted >:((((
I suggest you watch Tantacrul’s video on Facebook for what made it a social network and social media service respectively—the latter, centralized feeds, which from a skim of his Wikipedia article I don’t see what Kibo has anything to do with.
Well, you’re using “Social Media” as some kind of proper noun which apparently means something other than what most of humanity means by social media, hence my doubt. Sorry I was slow to understand. “Social network” on the other hand usually refers to networks of social connections in general, mediated or not.
My social media feed in 1989 was pretty good. Kibo was a guy who was famous for a thing that demonstrated to everyone the power that Usenet users had to generate their own views of the network according to whatever algorithms they chose. More often we had what I suppose you’d call a more reddit-like experience. Although I guess it’s so far unclear if your personal definition of Social Media would include Reddit.
technically it’s not part of any definition of “social media”, but it’s so ubiquitous that pretty much every well-known social media platform has it. this thing is a recommendation algorithm that acts on its own filters and aggregates items onto a homepage; usenet only had “filtering” by rooms. and yes, this definition would include reddit with its algorithm. i’m still unfortunately unable to find what you’re referring to that would be such an algorithm.
though since the beginning this has been a bit of a tangent—i mentioned disregarding that part of facebook’s innovations since it would be an unfair comparison. what did you mean when you said i was, well to put it a much harsher way than what you actually said but in the only way i can succintly summarize it after putting down this overly long disclaimer, dismissive of innovations?
You opened with “I mean mbin is just Reddit + Twitter” which is just ridiculous. However important the precise nature of the algorithms used to generate users’ feeds might be (mine shows only things I follow and is sorted by “new” most of the time), such qualities as being decentralized, standards-based, openly interoperable, and advertising-free are more so.
I was arguing against “Mbin is not quite like anything else”. assuming Lemmy is a copy of Reddit, Mbin is a copy of (Reddit + Twitter). to be more precise I can also say it’s just Lemmy + Mastodon.