My guess is you where trying to refere to the ridiculous attempts by the soviet union which to my understanding where designed to fail to set an example. (Look it up)
The core issue is that a nation has a centralized government that is always opposes to disbanding itself. Lenins vanguard party was a fascist takeover of marxist decentralized principles. (look it up)
You didn’t list any socialist societies. The first is a group of people who go camping annually together then go back to their real lives(in a capitalist society). Second is an authoritarian society which bans independent media and the third is another group where you vacation in this society until you get tired of it and just leave to your real life so that another can join(they also ban media).
Unless banning types of media is ok now for socialist societies?
None of them are an actual socialist nation. I wouldn’t be thinking of the Soviets, no. There was nothing socialist about them other than an initial. I wasn’t hinking of any in particular because there are not any. I wish there were and I hope for one but there isn’t one yet.
I have no contacts within the latest two but there are absolutely people in the rainbow family who live like that all year round with their entire family.
They are nomadic, have no homeland. There is no leadership, no scarcity (they often have leftovers they don’t know what to do with) its pure anarchistic communism.
Also dont trust to much from what you see online, these communities are aware bad actors and governments dislike them. You need to be invited for actual whereabouts.
This may be a possible reason why the syrian group may democratically ellect against media presence. What i found most interesting about them is that its one of the first Islamic communities i heard of that explicitly calls for equal gender rights.
What do the pathologically greedy do in a socialist or communist system? They find a way to gain power except they have almost no competition.
And where’s your proof?
All of history.
I didn’t need to do research because i already knew about these successful societies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Family
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Autonomous_Administration_of_North_and_East_Syria
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Oaks_Community,_Virginia
My guess is you where trying to refere to the ridiculous attempts by the soviet union which to my understanding where designed to fail to set an example. (Look it up)
The core issue is that a nation has a centralized government that is always opposes to disbanding itself. Lenins vanguard party was a fascist takeover of marxist decentralized principles. (look it up)
You didn’t list any socialist societies. The first is a group of people who go camping annually together then go back to their real lives(in a capitalist society). Second is an authoritarian society which bans independent media and the third is another group where you vacation in this society until you get tired of it and just leave to your real life so that another can join(they also ban media).
Unless banning types of media is ok now for socialist societies?
None of them are an actual socialist nation. I wouldn’t be thinking of the Soviets, no. There was nothing socialist about them other than an initial. I wasn’t hinking of any in particular because there are not any. I wish there were and I hope for one but there isn’t one yet.
I have no contacts within the latest two but there are absolutely people in the rainbow family who live like that all year round with their entire family.
They are nomadic, have no homeland. There is no leadership, no scarcity (they often have leftovers they don’t know what to do with) its pure anarchistic communism.
Also dont trust to much from what you see online, these communities are aware bad actors and governments dislike them. You need to be invited for actual whereabouts.
This may be a possible reason why the syrian group may democratically ellect against media presence. What i found most interesting about them is that its one of the first Islamic communities i heard of that explicitly calls for equal gender rights.
Which parts of history, exactly?
The parts where legitimate attempts at a socialist society has been attempted anywhere in the world…of which all failed for human dickish reasons.
How did the anarchist collectives “[fail] for human dickish reasons”? Is outside pressure from fascists a problem inherent to socialism?
And where would those be?
I will give you the opportunity to search for those instances yourself.
No - you will point out these (supposed) “legitimate attempts at a socialist society” you speak of.
No, you will search for them.
Just downvote the sea lion and move on.