pf2e has an action called recall knowledge that lets you roll to see if your character knows something about something. in this case, player could ask if trolls have any weaknesses, and roll a recall knowledge check using society (trolls are humanoid) and they might be able to learn about the trolls’ fire weakness
Plenty of systems have something for that, often with a variety of options.
A bookish Exalted character might roll Intelligence + Lore to remember having learned about the weakness to fire before. Or maybe Intelligence + Occult if the weakness is supernatural in nature. A combat-oriented character might roll Wits + War to deduce that fire is needed based on the knowledge of old battle reports involving trolls. Maybe even something involving Survival if they’re familiar with a region trolls can appear in.
A game with a flexible skill system has a lot of room for such things.
Plenty of systems have something for that, often with a variety of options.
I believe 5e has a similar rule, but it seems rare for players to have actually read the rules. I don’t think D&D is especially detailed about this, but I don’t know where the book is to check. I don’t think they give DCs, where I wouldn’t be surprised if Pathfinder 2e had a simple “target number is 8 + the creature’s HD” formula with guidance on what to do for the range of possible outcomes.
yeah in pf2 it’s a level based DC, and if it’s an uncommon, rare, or unique creature that will increase the DC
also the skill to use for recall knowledge depends on the creature’s trait:
humanoid > society;
animal > nature;
dragon > arcana;
abberation > occultism;
etc
though the GM can rule that you can use something else if they choose.
Without looking it up, I’m fairly certain that Arcana, Nature, and maybe even Survival checks can all be employed to fill this “character knowledge” confirmation, and have always been used for this and more. 🤦🏼♂️
obligatory pathfinder fixes that
pf2e has an action called recall knowledge that lets you roll to see if your character knows something about something. in this case, player could ask if trolls have any weaknesses, and roll a recall knowledge check using society (trolls are humanoid) and they might be able to learn about the trolls’ fire weakness
Plenty of systems have something for that, often with a variety of options.
A bookish Exalted character might roll Intelligence + Lore to remember having learned about the weakness to fire before. Or maybe Intelligence + Occult if the weakness is supernatural in nature. A combat-oriented character might roll Wits + War to deduce that fire is needed based on the knowledge of old battle reports involving trolls. Maybe even something involving Survival if they’re familiar with a region trolls can appear in.
A game with a flexible skill system has a lot of room for such things.
I believe 5e has a similar rule, but it seems rare for players to have actually read the rules. I don’t think D&D is especially detailed about this, but I don’t know where the book is to check. I don’t think they give DCs, where I wouldn’t be surprised if Pathfinder 2e had a simple “target number is 8 + the creature’s HD” formula with guidance on what to do for the range of possible outcomes.
yeah in pf2 it’s a level based DC, and if it’s an uncommon, rare, or unique creature that will increase the DC
also the skill to use for recall knowledge depends on the creature’s trait:
humanoid > society;
animal > nature;
dragon > arcana;
abberation > occultism;
etc
though the GM can rule that you can use something else if they choose.
oh so DnD does have that, but nobody knows about it. sick
People don’t know about those lore skills? Do people not look at their character sheets?
i’ll be honest i’ve never played dnd, and i’ve heard most people who do just kinda do whatever without thinking about the rules, so i’d guess no
Without looking it up, I’m fairly certain that Arcana, Nature, and maybe even Survival checks can all be employed to fill this “character knowledge” confirmation, and have always been used for this and more. 🤦🏼♂️
in the remaster trolls have the humanoid trait, so they use society. GM can rule to change that, though.
So, Nature or Survival, then. Different rolls for different outcomes, but the point stands. 🫡✨