• wewbull@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    That’s all ridiculous. You guys (the US) need to get past this race shit. She’s a US citizen by birth and that’s that.

    For some reason none of you want to be just “Americans”. You want to divide yourselves up into little tribes that link you back to some place you’ve never been.

    If you yourself emigrated, sure…call yourself Italian-American. If it was your parents…you are American and your parents were Italian. If it was your grandparents, you’re just American. Stop pretending.

    It would also help your politics no end.

    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
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      2 days ago

      get past this race shit

      You want people that are systemically disadvantaged (e.g. over policed, redlined, underrepresented, etc.) to just get over it? All colorblindness does is let people ignore that. Please find a solution with a little more room for reality, history, empathy, and complexity. Thanks.

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        2 days ago

        Get past and get over seem like distinctly different things. Get past suggests moving through and beyond to me.

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            24 hours ago

            I don’t think I am really qualified to answer that adequately. The simple answer is people need to stop being racist and start being anti-racist, but that’s a multi-generational project to transform culture and not something that can really be imposed via political will alone. The obvious answer is replace the system, but again there’s the issue of this being the real world so the path to a new system is very messy and potentially involves another civil war given how re-entrenched the forces of racism have become. I’d like to think systemic reform is still possible but realistically Trumpism must be resolved first before reform could ever happen, and there’s a lot of serious issues arising from wealth concentration that potentially have to be dealt with too (i.e. even without Trumpism, we still have a bunch of ultrawealthy racists wielding their money to manipulate society).

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      2 days ago

      You’re being ridiculous. Humans will never stop dividing ourselves into tribes. And guess what? Prejudice doesn’t have to be a part of that division.

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        2 days ago

        uhhh, race as we know it wasn’t really a thing until well after the romans, before then skin colour was about as interesting as hair and eye colour.

        afaik people cared somewhat about ethnicity specifically, but racism as we know it wasn’t a thing at all.