• gorikan@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Dead or probably dead is obviously an estimate. The part of probably dead counters your second argument. I think that since this is from thr direct death toll number its a vast undercount, since for example hunger related deaths will be civilian. I dont understand why do you think 83% or less? it seems to me you didnt read the article sinc the 17 to 83 from guardian was mentioned.

    Of course the numbers are incomplete, these are just one of the best we have. Even the article here cites idf number as grounds for argument of 2 to 8 militanto to civilian ratio. The reason why hamas doesnt publish it is just part of guerrila warfare. The israeli enemy would gain valuable intel that way. So the hamas published numbers would be seen as unreliable, as many commentators argued even about their complete death toll number. But now you say that those numbers are good?

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      4 days ago

      Hunger related deaths were less than 100 so far. IIRC. Many of them especially vulnerable people with preexisting chronic illnesses.

      Yes, hunger always hurts civilians first. The men with the guns control access to resources.

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        4 days ago

        Thats a lie. Thats confirmed cases. Lets not misrepresent. The highest estimates like used to be the Lancet one, has largest portion in the collateral deaths, meaning large part of the hunger related ones.

        Also kids are very vulnerable to this since mothers stop lactating thanks to the genocider blocking food.

        completely true last point, because israel doesnt care about any inch of international law the ghf can essentially shoot at aid seekers and call that aid. The un agencies have plead for the standard food shipments to be restored to them. But israel demands they use the routes with the armed gangs and israeli protesters of nonstarvation.