I don’t understand christian theology. The rapture apparently comes from something in “First Epistle to the Thessalonians”, which is just Paul (probably) writing a letter. It’s christianity, not Paulianity. Why is this even in the bible? Oh, that’s probably a whole rabbit hole.
They really need to release “Jesus, the teenage years” because there’s way more insane things in there than the rapture. At one point Jesus, who has three siblings who are never mentioned ever again, fights a dragon. That’s right, according to Christianity there were dragons, but Jesus killed all of them when he was like 14.
It kinda is Paulianity. Paul, unfortunately, had a massive influence on the early church. He’s probably the one most responsible for the focus shifting from “Love your neighbor as yourself” to “Believe Jesus is God or else”.
That’s an impoverished view of the writings attributed to Paul in the NT. He’s also called the author of stuff like 1 Corinthians 13.
A sampling:
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, [love] is not pompous, it is not inflated, 5 it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury, 6 it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth. 7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Let’s not gloss over the fact that “neighbor” in this context literally meant only Hebrews. God went on to explain how it’s totally cool to genocide and enslave everyone else like 3 verses after “love your neighbor.”
If we’re talking OT, even Leviticus says to treat foreigners as neighbors in 19:34. If we’re keeping it NT, I don’t recall Jesus advocating genocide or slavery.
Jesus said heaven and earth would pass away before one letter was removed from the old law. But also maybe whoever wrote leviticus should pick a lane:
Chapter 25
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
The New Testament absolutely says that it’s ok to keep slaves and provides guidelines for how matters should treat their slaves and how slave should behave. This is mostly within the context of Roman society at the time.
And Roman slavery at the time was much more like indentured servitude than what we generally refer to when we talk about “slavery”. Though you’re gonna have to cite chapter and verse for saying it’s okay, I don’t recall anything like that.
This is what happens when you cobble together a religion out of beliefs from every other religion you know of at the time to try to get the “single issue” believers.
Sure is, starting with the fact that if Paul was ever actually Paul he either had a head injury after the beginning or someone else wrote the latter half of his letters.
I don’t understand christian theology. The rapture apparently comes from something in “First Epistle to the Thessalonians”, which is just Paul (probably) writing a letter. It’s christianity, not Paulianity. Why is this even in the bible? Oh, that’s probably a whole rabbit hole.
They really need to release “Jesus, the teenage years” because there’s way more insane things in there than the rapture. At one point Jesus, who has three siblings who are never mentioned ever again, fights a dragon. That’s right, according to Christianity there were dragons, but Jesus killed all of them when he was like 14.
youre asking for a real “Teenjus”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas
Isn’t the Gospel of Thomas not considered canonical?
It kinda is Paulianity. Paul, unfortunately, had a massive influence on the early church. He’s probably the one most responsible for the focus shifting from “Love your neighbor as yourself” to “Believe Jesus is God or else”.
That’s an impoverished view of the writings attributed to Paul in the NT. He’s also called the author of stuff like 1 Corinthians 13.
A sampling:
That doesn’t change his many other beliefs, most relevantly all the messianic, apocalyptic additions.
Thanks. that’s beautiful
He still shouldn’t have been writing while tripping.
Let’s not gloss over the fact that “neighbor” in this context literally meant only Hebrews. God went on to explain how it’s totally cool to genocide and enslave everyone else like 3 verses after “love your neighbor.”
If we’re talking OT, even Leviticus says to treat foreigners as neighbors in 19:34. If we’re keeping it NT, I don’t recall Jesus advocating genocide or slavery.
Jesus said heaven and earth would pass away before one letter was removed from the old law. But also maybe whoever wrote leviticus should pick a lane:
Chapter 25
Suddenly, Israel’s actions make a lot more sense.
The New Testament absolutely says that it’s ok to keep slaves and provides guidelines for how matters should treat their slaves and how slave should behave. This is mostly within the context of Roman society at the time.
Pretty sure the stuff you’re thinking about is yet another awful thing that Paul said.
And Roman slavery at the time was much more like indentured servitude than what we generally refer to when we talk about “slavery”. Though you’re gonna have to cite chapter and verse for saying it’s okay, I don’t recall anything like that.
I mean, don’t misunderstand me as advocating for Christianity, but isn’t what you are saying literally addressed as wrong in new testament?
I thought that the whole point about the parable of the good samaritan is about the question “but who is my neighbour?” asked in bad faith?
This is what happens when you cobble together a religion out of beliefs from every other religion you know of at the time to try to get the “single issue” believers.
Sure is, starting with the fact that if Paul was ever actually Paul he either had a head injury after the beginning or someone else wrote the latter half of his letters.