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    11 months ago

    Wake up call for who? Will the Democrats ever wake up and give their base something to vote for, instead of “hey, the other guys’s worse, whaddya gonna do?”.

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        11 months ago

        You aren’t wrong, in a way. I’m nearing fifty and Biden is arguably the most progressive president in my lifetime. The problem is, that says more about the quality of presidents in my lifetime than it does about Biden, and with the climate crisis and encroaching global fascism, we don’t have anymore time to wait. The Democrats are doing more, now, because pressure from the left has convinced them that they have to, but the leadership is still dragging their feet in defense of corporate profits as much as they can. The fact that they are doing more doesn’t mean it’s time to lower the pressure - it means the pressure is working, and we need to dial it up.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t really agree with you, but even if I did… “advertising it” is a big part of politics! It’s called messaging, and it’s important. You have to get people excited to vote for you. They need to feel like you’re fighting for them. If you can’t manage that, then don’t blame people for not voting for you.

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          11 months ago

          I also think people cling to the negatives. With student debt relief, everyone was cynical as hell at the time and still attacked the Dems.

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          11 months ago

          Seems like maybe Obama shouldn’t have made propaganda normal and mainstream

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        11 months ago

        He’s currently failing to handle the current most pressing international issue in a way that satisfies his voter base, though.

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          11 months ago

          He is, don’t think that contradicts anything I’ve said though. I’m just saying they do more than they let on.

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      They give money to run ads for the most insane GOP people so they can have easier opponents, they wanted Trump to win the primary because it would have made the GOP a laughingstock. Problem is over time this emboldens and normalizes this faction, and now it’s just this death spiral where they can’t change or the other faction will win, it’s like this logical inevitability at this point. Dems said it loud and clear in 2016 they will choose a candidate friendly to donors over one that could easy win against Trump.

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      What the hell are you talking about???

      The dems have absolutely given us things to vote for: infrastructure act, record low unemployment, union support with the pres visiting the picket line for the first time ever, we have the best inflation rate across all of the G7.

      Yeah it’s not enough but that’s on the contrarians more than anything else.

      The fuck you talking about

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          Sorry, they are not repeating right wing propaganda. They are going outside and having yellow, asparagus smelling, liquid fall on them. Then everywhere they go Democrats are telling them it’s not piss.

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            I mean generally speaking, if you think the infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, and billions in student loan forgiveness aren’t “something to vote for”, one of two things are true. Either you’re utterly delusional, or you’re a Republican.

            I mean, who else but a conservative could look at these and say they aren’t accomplishments?

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        Mmmm, no. I heard that Biden and his ultra-centrist party have done nothing to stop deforestation in the Messia region of Mozambique. I’d rather have Trump and vote my conscience than allow globalists like Biden to ruin the Earth.

        (just in case… /s)

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        11 months ago

        I get it here on Lemmy anytime someone complains about Biden and they are piled onto by people saying he’s the lesser of two evils.