• hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social
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    11 months ago

    I worked at grocery stores for 7 years in my late teens and early 20s. People who don’t use cart corrals deserve nothing.

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    11 months ago

    Grocery store owner: “Looks like customer altruism is ramping up again, time to lay off some more employees!”

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    11 months ago

    They say that it’s the ultimate test of selflessness, because it doesn’t benefit you and there’s no recognition for it.

    But does it cancel out the selflessness if I’m now thinking that every time I return a cart? “If someone sees me, they’ll know how selfless I am…”

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      11 months ago

      I had a teacher in highschool that presented the philosophical argument that no one ever does anything that is truly selfless. The argument was exactly what you mentioned, that if someone is doing something that appears selfless, they’re actually doing it in hopes that someone notices and thinks more highly of them.

      This would have been an interesting rebuttal to the argument. If you return a shopping cart in an empty parking lot, does that make you selfless? Kind of like a modern version of a tree falling in a forest…

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        I’m not doing it for the goodness of my heart or being selfless. I enjoy following the rules.I do it for me, not for the person using the cart next or the store employees. You can argue I’m kind of an asshole for it, actually.

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        i don’t think true selflessness exists, but i also think that is completely and utterly irrelevant.

        Everything is fundamentally fueled by selfishness, but it seems to be a fundamental truth of the universe that cooperation is optimal for an individual if they can achieve it.

        for example cooperation is the thing that allows us and animals like ants to be so hilariously more successful than other species, and on an ecosystem level everyone is cooperating since their chemical structures are compatible. If something were to evolve to use mirrored sugar (which is incompatible with the version of sugar molecules we use) then they’d have nothing but themselves to eat and thus promptly starve.

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          11 months ago

          That just reminded me of the book Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind. The author talks about how we beat out other Homo species not due to our intelligence or our strength, but due to our ability to cooperate among large groups. If you took 10 humans and pitted them in a fight against 10 Neanderthals or even 10 chimps, we would lose. But if you took 200 humans against 200 of them, we would win every time.

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            i would caution against taking that as gospel, afaik we don’t really know why other species died out yet, and we have very clear evidence that our species interbred a whole heck of a lot.

            it’s probably a whole host of reasons that led to us surviving alone, including stuff like being able to survive on very little food, and hey maybe we to some degree simply interbred to the point that their species dissolved into ours.

            imagine being a buff neanderthal and encountering these strange lithe people with less hair and suddenly that pretty girl in another neanderthal tribe you had your eyes on is completely forgotten.

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      But does it cancel out the selflessness if I’m now thinking that every time I return a cart? "If someone sees me, they’ll know how selfless I am…

      Well, thank you for ruining my life.

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      Honestly unless you believe there is inherent good in doing that (religion mostly, morality for some) then no. It doesn’t make sense to work for free, to not have returns.

      If recognition is a form of payment then good on some people, though I personally think recognition can be a drug, and religion justifies my good actions for me much better.

      Point is keep on doing good, and maybe consider that the slightly tidier and cleaner space you leave was worth the effort. Surely someone would have seen you and thought “damn, I should do that next time”

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    You need to check out the cart narcs on YouTube!! They record themselves calling people out on not returning their carts, and the petty reactions from the lazy bones. They even have hood magnets for the unrepentant!! https://youtube.com/@CartNarcs

  • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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    It wasn’t until I moved and had a Wegmans that I pretty much never see a cart outside of their sheds. The couple times I have seen it was at the “entitled rich people” location. Wegmans has enough cart returns around that you have absolutely no excuse. They even put the reserved spots for pregnant and those with children right next to the returns so it is easier for them.

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    I bring loose carts into the store on my way in, usually don’t use a cart since I bring bags

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      Me too. I find it really odd seeing people walk past a loose cart to go inside and wrestle one loose from the corral.

      Plus, I’ll take the cart that’s baking in the heat and UV every time. Yet another way the pandemic changed me permanently.

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        Why is that odd to you? I think that’s very normal and expected behaviour for the average wild human. If you look closely, you can even see them mouth breathing

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    11 months ago

    I still feel bad about the one time I didn’t return a shopping cart.

    A creepy guy was hitting on me and wouldn’t take no for an answer, didn’t feel safe to go anywhere but in my car and the fuck out of there.

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      That’s on the dude, not you. As a larger guy who has never not returned a cart in his life, I’d have done the same lmao

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    Putting the cart in the corral is a little pleasure for me if there aren’t too many carts in it. I stand back a little and push it in and watch it go with glee like a small child.

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    Image Transcription: Twitter


    Han Solo Cup @paminski

    I may not be perfect or very good or adequate, but I return shopping carts to their appropriate location.