• Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz
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    I’ve often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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      Cheaters also are part of why I like coop games so much more. Join a random game with a cheater, doesn’t matter too much and you can leave. Play with a group of friends and that also goes a long way to eliminating them.

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      I always thought there should be an “unlimited class” in the olympics where you can take anything you want. I want to see wildly drugged up athletes competing with each other.

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        I always thought professional sports games don’t have enough good ol’ gladiatorial bloodshed. If youre getting paid tens of millions per year for sports you damn well better be doing more than moving an object around.

        Look, all im saying is any sports game can be made more watchable by giving players a side-armed melee wepon and allowed one swing per play iteration with no redcards. Put back in some selective pressure to turn those middle aged pudgy players and coaches into real athletes and tacticians.

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          According to D’Souza, he created the Games because he believes that athletes are entitled to do what they wish with their own bodies

          If that’s been agreed upon as the ruleset for their competitions, I agree

          and that the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is corrupt and not paying them enough.

          Also agree, it’s the individual countries that usually pay their athletes to athlete and uh… Yeah, they get sponsors for a reason, don’t they. I know a few people who’ve competed at several olympic games and just being top 10 or something in the world in your sport doesn’t exactly get you swimming in money.

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          “And now the athletes are at the starting line for the hundred meter ketamine stagger. . . They’re waiting for the starters’ gun. . . Some of them have got confused and wandered off. . .”

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      GTA Online does (did?) this, most cheating wouldn’t get you banned and instead just placed in cheater lobbies.

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        Rockstar botched that system, I can attest as I used numerous different mod menus on GTA V Online, most well developed menus will let you alter yours (and others) in-game reputation by spamming the commend/report functions.

        Spawning in UFO’s an such was the highlight of GTA V Online for me, haven’t touched the game since I moved to Linux, I hear it’s broken due to the new anti-cheat.

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          They made it much easier to setup private lobbies for friends and crew. Haven’t played in public lobbies in years.

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            While private lobbies certainly help weed out the bullshit, if a modder was determined enough they could copy your Rockstar ID and use that to follow you from lobby to lobby regardless of its privacy restrictions.

            Logging someones Rockstar ID might as well make them your friend, depending on the mod menu they could receive notifications on when you’re online/offline.

            Here is a common mod menu that was popular prior to the anti-cheat update, I think they have shutdown now.

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              From what you’re saying, it sounds like you have to be in a public lobby first, then hop into private for them to get your id. Can they get your id without ever being in the lobby or any contact at all? Currently you can just go into single player and start a private lobby. Idk how the enhanced edition does, I’m assuming it’s the same. I haven’t played in a couple years, so getting into a private lobby might have changed.

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                it sounds like you have to be in a public lobby first, then hop into private for them to get your id. Can they get your id without ever being in the lobby or any contact at all?

                This is not true, if you knew a persons social-club username you could search for the ID associated with it. I can’t find many tools online except for this one no idea of this works or not, I’m sure there are guides to obtain R*ID’s elsewhere.

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              GTA is a disgusting franchise, and the content in the games is just awful. Maybe the stories are good, but do you really need to insert heavy esex and substance use into a game like that? That’s called desensitization, and I’m sensitive to quite a few things (not this fake sensitivity that’s floating around… legit sensitivity).

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                  I pulled an Am I The Genius? here, which explains it. I might have to modify that a bit, since I don’t remember how they did it.

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                GTA is a disgusting franchise

                Because of this nobody noticed how woke GTA:SA was. If you depicted the CIA smuggling cocaine and weapons into black communities while the justice system imprisons young black men with wildly disparate sentencing 2025, the game would be canceled, by the kind of chuds who just see “cool violence!”

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                  San Andreas was the wokest of them all, but GTA V is pretty woke too. Your main enemies are three letter agencies, the in-universe equivalent of Blackwater/Academi/XE (legit their GTA name has been consistent for longer than their real names at this point, might as well call them real life Merriweather) and you pull a hit on an asshole tech CEO, a tobacco company CEO, etc. But then, GTA V has also been out for over a decade now.

                  I hope they keep the theme going with the next one. Show it all as a bunch of “cool violence” while beneath the surface it’s critique of consumerism, government overreach and society in general.

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                So that’s why you don’t play GTA. I don’t agree, but you do you.

                To get back on topic, why don’t you play older games as you said. That’s specifically what the other user asked.

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                  Maybe I should’ve clarified something, as the older games were included due to the fact that GTA’s writing, content and mechanics were just disgusting. On top of that, I wouldn’t do any of that stuff in real life, let alone in something like GTA.

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                    On top of that, I wouldn’t do any of that stuff in real life, let alone in something like GTA.

                    So you wouldn’t do anything in a video game that you wouldn’t do in real life?

                    I think you need to see a therapist if you have that much trouble differentiating fact from fiction

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      I think Valve should have only recorded which players were cheating for a few weeks, then ban them all at once. Would avoid them disabling cheats now they know and would also make it more difficult to figure out what exactly is VAC detecting.

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      I’d love to play matches with aimbots.

      I’m not good at games. Don’t care enough to git gud. Certainly wouldn’t ruin anyone’s experience by cheating. But it’d be fun to see what the game is like with everyone having perfect aim.

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        Cheaters aren’t only aimbots. In fact, most of the time they’re not even using aimbot because that’s one of the easiest one to tell that someone is cheating. Most of the time they can just see everyone through walls. But if it’s cheater vs cheater and they don’t care about being caught then it’s not fun or interesting because you just use aim + speed + noclip (I assume that’s possible) and just kill everyone the second the round starts.