Yeah what the fuck. Just like Luigi’s alleged engravings. It doesnt make any sense beyond an emotional response. Why take the time to engrave something no one will see? Its going faster than the speed of sound.
So this line of reasoning is a trap. People do dumb ass shit all the time for emotional reasons, including criminals. In fact, people doing dumb ass shit is so reliable that police investigative procedures are almost designed around it.
Except our shooter here was clearly trained. Possibly a veteran. Or maybe it really was a false flag. They would know what engravings would do on the casings that get left behind.
“Clearly trained”. No, not really. Making a headshot at 200 yards with the benefit of a benchrest/tripod/sandbag is not difficult. I’ve hit that distance before with a 357 magnum revolver from benchrest (though the owner had that thing very well dialed in).
I’m seeing plenty of people who obviously know nothing about guns say it’s a hard shot. It’s not.
Olympics has a 62 yard rifle competition. Perfect score is theoretically over 450, though practically 450 cap is useful. Gold was 469 points, and 8th 400 points. Averaging under 9 points per shot, for 8th place, which is missing by more than an inch. Expanding to 200 yards, 8th best world athlete would miss on average by over 3 inches. (though only 1/3 of shots are taken in prone position).
A lot of people insisting the guy has to be a professional… He absolutely does not, he just has to be very practiced with a rifle. There are probably over a hundred thousand civilians in the US who can hit a target with a Mauser at 200 yards on the first try, it’s literally a feature of some casual gun competitions.
I’m not saying this is the case, but it is very possible that if this person purchased the rifle legally, they believe that the purchase will be traceable back to them and that they will almost certainly be caught. So they could have acted with the mindset that they would be throwing away their own life.
The cartridge casing exists to form a seal against the breach end of the barrel. It doesn’t go anywhere. It just expands slightly from the high pressure gases inside, preventing those gases from escaping out the back, propelling the bullet forward with as much pressure as possible.
The rifle is bolt action. The spent casing was still chambered.
I do find it interesting that DOJ lawyers have been seeking the death penalty for Mangione, and linchpin of their case is that he inspired other shooters – something that until recently was openly laughable.
Adding that the story of the supposed writing on the bullets is based on a memo that circulated at the FBI and it’s unknown if that memo was based on accurate information or just the figment of someone’s imagination to create a narrative that people will now just accept as fact.
I’m not sure which part has been debunked. Do you have a link on that?
The news is now widely reporting the bullet casings were inscribed with some ridiculously long messages. (For a bullet casing, anyway. It seems like a lot of words to me.)
[Utah Governor, Brian] Cox said that there were inscriptions on the casings of the fired bullet and three unfired ones. The fired bullet casing contained the inscription, “Notices bulges OwO what’s this?” An unfired bullet casing read, “Hey fascist, catch!” And a second unfired casing read, “oh bella ciao, bella cio, bella ciao, ciao, ciao.” A third unfired casing said, “If you read this, you are gay.” CBS News
Yeah what the fuck. Just like Luigi’s alleged engravings. It doesnt make any sense beyond an emotional response. Why take the time to engrave something no one will see? Its going faster than the speed of sound.
Typically you would engrave the casing. That goes nowhere near the target.
So yeah.
Then to the same degree, why engrave the evidence to make it easier to track? It still doesnt make sense.
So this line of reasoning is a trap. People do dumb ass shit all the time for emotional reasons, including criminals. In fact, people doing dumb ass shit is so reliable that police investigative procedures are almost designed around it.
Except our shooter here was clearly trained. Possibly a veteran. Or maybe it really was a false flag. They would know what engravings would do on the casings that get left behind.
“Clearly trained”. No, not really. Making a headshot at 200 yards with the benefit of a benchrest/tripod/sandbag is not difficult. I’ve hit that distance before with a 357 magnum revolver from benchrest (though the owner had that thing very well dialed in).
I’m seeing plenty of people who obviously know nothing about guns say it’s a hard shot. It’s not.
Sure, Jan. We used to hit womp rats no bigger than that back home.
Please stop, it hurts. 200 yards is not that hard with a rifle.
We just watched 2 botched attempts at assassination recently. Its clearly not an easy thing to pull off on high profile targets.
Olympics has a 62 yard rifle competition. Perfect score is theoretically over 450, though practically 450 cap is useful. Gold was 469 points, and 8th 400 points. Averaging under 9 points per shot, for 8th place, which is missing by more than an inch. Expanding to 200 yards, 8th best world athlete would miss on average by over 3 inches. (though only 1/3 of shots are taken in prone position).
Still, this is a good shot.
an average golfer could pretty much do that with a golf club and a golf ball lol 200 yards is not far
A lot of people insisting the guy has to be a professional… He absolutely does not, he just has to be very practiced with a rifle. There are probably over a hundred thousand civilians in the US who can hit a target with a Mauser at 200 yards on the first try, it’s literally a feature of some casual gun competitions.
I’m not saying this is the case, but it is very possible that if this person purchased the rifle legally, they believe that the purchase will be traceable back to them and that they will almost certainly be caught. So they could have acted with the mindset that they would be throwing away their own life.
easier to track
Sounds like a feature, not a bug. What better way to stage a false flag operation?
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The casing doesn’t leave the rifle until you pull the bolt back. Also, 100 yards (300 feet).
e: I’m now hearing 200 yards.
The cartridge casing exists to form a seal against the breach end of the barrel. It doesn’t go anywhere. It just expands slightly from the high pressure gases inside, preventing those gases from escaping out the back, propelling the bullet forward with as much pressure as possible.
There is no tracking danger from engravings, other than establishing a message, and then seeing if future suspect might agree with the message.
In this case, it’s more likely that a fascist loving employee of fascism may want to project more ammunition for fascism.
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Bruh. Too soon, man.
John Wilkes Booth?
Hehehe. Noice.
The casing that the shooter took with them?
Why leave rifle full of them & not leave the one you fired?
This was a CIA or Mossad hit & the shooter isn’t even in the USA at this point.
The rifle is bolt action. The spent casing was still chambered.
I do find it interesting that DOJ lawyers have been seeking the death penalty for Mangione, and linchpin of their case is that he inspired other shooters – something that until recently was openly laughable.
Adding that the story of the supposed writing on the bullets is based on a memo that circulated at the FBI and it’s unknown if that memo was based on accurate information or just the figment of someone’s imagination to create a narrative that people will now just accept as fact.
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I’m not sure which part has been debunked. Do you have a link on that?
The news is now widely reporting the bullet casings were inscribed with some ridiculously long messages. (For a bullet casing, anyway. It seems like a lot of words to me.)
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